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I had the opposite experience. Claude models and its harness feel like they are set to eat tokens for everything, especially if it’s ultracode effort. I have s

I had the opposite experience. Claude models and its harness feel like they are set to eat tokens for everything, especially if it’s ultracode effort. I have seen it spawn 6 agents and eat my 4-hour quota right in front of me. Codex is on point and follows instructions well even with max effort. I like my analogy of Claude being garrulous and Codex being laconic. If I see more limit hits in same sitting session, I have to rearrange my workflows. my experiments with qwen and deepseek have been good, cant wait to try glm and other models.

throwup238 1mo ago
Just before I canceled my 20x Max sub I had a day where I had ~15% of my weekly I was trying to burn. I set it on ultracode and because I had set the max agents 32 for another project and forgot, the five research agents ended up spinning up a total of 26 subagents and burned through the remainder of my weekly in the span of 20 minutes before I noticed and shut it down. “No, not like THAT!”
- vanviegen 1mo ago
  How can you burn through your weekly budget in 20 minutes? You'd hit your 5 hour budget way before that, right?
  - throwup238 1mo ago
    The five hour budget is about 15% of the weekly on Max 20x. I had about 15% left.
    - vanviegen 1mo ago
      Ah sorry, I read your earlier comment as you being at 15% of your weekly (so the prompt consuming 85%).
- wccrawford 1mo ago
  Claude did the same thing to me the other day. I ran out of my 5 hr limit, and it went into my $100 credit they had given me. Multiple parallel agents. It ate it in no time flat. When I checked, all that credit was gone, I still wasn't into the next 5 hours, and all the agents had failed, returning nothing. I didn't even get anything for burning all that credit. If I had paid for it, I'd be very, very pissed.
  - newAccount2025 1mo ago
    Similar experience here. I had raised my cap to $20 because they had given me promo credit. The credit expired without me using it and I didn’t notice. One fine day I was like, oh my weekly quota resets soon, I will kick off an expensive bug hunt. It launched parallel things and burned $10 in like a moment. It’s scary. I turned off extra usage after that.
StilesCrisis 1mo ago
Requesting ultracode is basically asking for maximum token usage. If you want to limit consumption, use medium or high.
NyxWulf 1mo ago
Here is an excerpt from the system prompt for UltraCode (Same for Fable,Opus,Sonnet): "Ultracode. When a system-reminder confirms ultracode is on, that opt-in is standing: author and run a workflow for every substantive task by default. The goal is the most exhaustive, correct answer you can produce — token cost is not a constraint."
killix 1mo ago
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throwup238 1mo ago

Just before I canceled my 20x Max sub I had a day where I had ~15% of my weekly I was trying to burn. I set it on ultracode and because I had set the max agents 32 for another project and forgot, the five research agents ended up spinning up a total of 26 subagents and burned through the remainder of my weekly in the span of 20 minutes before I noticed and shut it down. “No, not like THAT!”

vanviegen 1mo ago
How can you burn through your weekly budget in 20 minutes? You'd hit your 5 hour budget way before that, right?
- throwup238 1mo ago
  The five hour budget is about 15% of the weekly on Max 20x. I had about 15% left.
  - vanviegen 1mo ago
    Ah sorry, I read your earlier comment as you being at 15% of your weekly (so the prompt consuming 85%).
wccrawford 1mo ago
Claude did the same thing to me the other day. I ran out of my 5 hr limit, and it went into my $100 credit they had given me. Multiple parallel agents. It ate it in no time flat. When I checked, all that credit was gone, I still wasn't into the next 5 hours, and all the agents had failed, returning nothing. I didn't even get anything for burning all that credit. If I had paid for it, I'd be very, very pissed.
- newAccount2025 1mo ago
  Similar experience here. I had raised my cap to $20 because they had given me promo credit. The credit expired without me using it and I didn’t notice. One fine day I was like, oh my weekly quota resets soon, I will kick off an expensive bug hunt. It launched parallel things and burned $10 in like a moment. It’s scary. I turned off extra usage after that.

StilesCrisis 1mo ago

Requesting ultracode is basically asking for maximum token usage. If you want to limit consumption, use medium or high.

NyxWulf 1mo ago

Here is an excerpt from the system prompt for UltraCode (Same for Fable,Opus,Sonnet): "Ultracode. When a system-reminder confirms ultracode is on, that opt-in is standing: author and run a workflow for every substantive task by default. The goal is the most exhaustive, correct answer you can produce — token cost is not a constraint."

killix 1mo ago

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