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For anyone on the fence, I was a hardcore CC user since it was released. I made the full switch to 5.6 sol and Codex about a month ago. It's the better experie

For anyone on the fence, I was a hardcore CC user since it was released. I made the full switch to 5.6 sol and Codex about a month ago. It's the better experience. The limits are way higher (I almost never burn through my $200/m plan), and the output is better than Opus 4.8 (Opus 5 is completely unusable for me).

ramoz 1mo ago
You're underselling how good/reliable 5.6 sol is. It's in the fable discussion league not Opus4.8
- ryanSrich 1mo ago
  I haven't used fable since they brought it back. But based on my experience before they removed it, I would agree that sol is pretty close.
SomeHacker44 1mo ago
I use Claude and Antigravity CLI as an (Arch) Linux desktop system administrator a lot lately. Is Codex useful for that too?
- christophilus 1mo ago
  Not sure what Antigravity is, but Sol is good at sysadmin tasks.
  - SomeHacker44 1mo ago
    Antigravity (at least Antigravity CLI which I use) is the CLI coding (?) agent harness from Google that uses Gemini as the model. There are other models available but I haven't tried them.
brotchie 1mo ago
Yep, switched from CC to 5.6 Sol. Not using it in my day job (only side projects), but I can crank 5.6 Sol on Extra High "fast mode" and never have to worry about credits. Not doing crazy multi agent swarms, but have yet to hit any limits during pretty intense weekend sessions.
nozzlegear 1mo ago
Also try a hundred bucks on Openrouter and experiment with the Chinese models like Deepseek, Kimi, GLM. $100 will last a good while, and it isn't tied to a single model or provider.
- halfmatthalfcat 1mo ago
  I burned though $50 on OpenRouter in three days, this is with selective model routing based on tasks/strict AGENTS.md. A Claude 20x sub running Sonnet 5/Opus 5 and light Fable usage gets me through the month. It wasn't even close even though I wish it were.
  - nozzlegear 1mo ago
    Damn that's crazy. I put in $10 on the 5th of August and still have $1.99 left today, the 18th. I use Deepseek Flash almost exclusively.
    - nl 1mo ago
      Deepseek Flash is somewhere around the OpenAI Luna level though. That's not bad (and nor is Luna!) but Opus/Sol are just massively better especially once you start doing agentic tasks. See for example https://x.com/zainhas/status/2085567832268656755 https://x.com/zainhas/status/2085567832268656755
      - nozzlegear 1mo ago
        Agreed, it's not SOTA but I'm happy with the trade off. My preference is to use mostly local models and augment them with Deepseek. It's been a pretty great equilibrium.
- planckscnst 1mo ago
  I have the $100 plan on OpenCode Zen, which I imagine is similar. I burn through it ridiculously fast. I haven't run the numbers, but it felt about the same as an Anthropic $20 plan
robertn702 1mo ago
I had a very similar experience. The combination of Claude going down frequently and the hype around open source models was enough for me to swap my harness from Claude Code to OpenCode. Then it became trivial to test out different models, and now the rest is history. Currently using OpenCode with z.ai and Codex $200/m plans for all my work atm.
downrightmike 1mo ago
If you aren't using the full $200, you are losing money every month
- nl 1mo ago
  What thought process gets you to that conclusion? It's clearly not right if you compare it to API prices. It's even less right if you compare to a SWE salary. Yes not using the full $200 means you aren't tokenmaxxing, but that seems about the most you can conclude from it.
marknutter 1mo ago
As a counter point, I've been using CC since December and I've never really had any problems with it. It's always done exactly what I want it to and I continue to be blown away by its capabilities, regardless of which of their models I've used. I also almost never burn through my $200/m plan.

ramoz 1mo ago

You're underselling how good/reliable 5.6 sol is. It's in the fable discussion league not Opus4.8

ryanSrich 1mo ago
I haven't used fable since they brought it back. But based on my experience before they removed it, I would agree that sol is pretty close.

SomeHacker44 1mo ago

I use Claude and Antigravity CLI as an (Arch) Linux desktop system administrator a lot lately. Is Codex useful for that too?

christophilus 1mo ago
Not sure what Antigravity is, but Sol is good at sysadmin tasks.
- SomeHacker44 1mo ago
  Antigravity (at least Antigravity CLI which I use) is the CLI coding (?) agent harness from Google that uses Gemini as the model. There are other models available but I haven't tried them.

brotchie 1mo ago

Yep, switched from CC to 5.6 Sol. Not using it in my day job (only side projects), but I can crank 5.6 Sol on Extra High "fast mode" and never have to worry about credits. Not doing crazy multi agent swarms, but have yet to hit any limits during pretty intense weekend sessions.

nozzlegear 1mo ago

Also try a hundred bucks on Openrouter and experiment with the Chinese models like Deepseek, Kimi, GLM. $100 will last a good while, and it isn't tied to a single model or provider.

halfmatthalfcat 1mo ago
I burned though $50 on OpenRouter in three days, this is with selective model routing based on tasks/strict AGENTS.md. A Claude 20x sub running Sonnet 5/Opus 5 and light Fable usage gets me through the month. It wasn't even close even though I wish it were.
- nozzlegear 1mo ago
  Damn that's crazy. I put in $10 on the 5th of August and still have $1.99 left today, the 18th. I use Deepseek Flash almost exclusively.
  - nl 1mo ago
    Deepseek Flash is somewhere around the OpenAI Luna level though. That's not bad (and nor is Luna!) but Opus/Sol are just massively better especially once you start doing agentic tasks. See for example https://x.com/zainhas/status/2085567832268656755 https://x.com/zainhas/status/2085567832268656755
    - nozzlegear 1mo ago
      Agreed, it's not SOTA but I'm happy with the trade off. My preference is to use mostly local models and augment them with Deepseek. It's been a pretty great equilibrium.
planckscnst 1mo ago
I have the $100 plan on OpenCode Zen, which I imagine is similar. I burn through it ridiculously fast. I haven't run the numbers, but it felt about the same as an Anthropic $20 plan

robertn702 1mo ago

I had a very similar experience. The combination of Claude going down frequently and the hype around open source models was enough for me to swap my harness from Claude Code to OpenCode. Then it became trivial to test out different models, and now the rest is history. Currently using OpenCode with z.ai and Codex $200/m plans for all my work atm.

downrightmike 1mo ago

If you aren't using the full $200, you are losing money every month

nl 1mo ago
What thought process gets you to that conclusion? It's clearly not right if you compare it to API prices. It's even less right if you compare to a SWE salary. Yes not using the full $200 means you aren't tokenmaxxing, but that seems about the most you can conclude from it.

marknutter 1mo ago

As a counter point, I've been using CC since December and I've never really had any problems with it. It's always done exactly what I want it to and I continue to be blown away by its capabilities, regardless of which of their models I've used. I also almost never burn through my $200/m plan.