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Looking like this will be the last month with Anthropic. Between the outages and just overall crap utility of Opus/Fable lately...

apsurd 2mo ago
also codex + sol is really good and quite fast.
- ipsod 2mo ago
  I switched when 4.7 dropped, after over a year on the service. It was an immediate improvement - not even 1 hour before Codex was giving me better results with less effort.
- extr 2mo ago
  Unfortunately Sol does not compare to Fable at all.
  - cute_boi 2mo ago
    And Fable doesn't compare to Sol at all. Fable will block on many request in name of cybersecurity, sol never does that.
    - jaggederest 2mo ago
      They're absolutely best in a chocolate-in-my-peanutbutter situation - I use them to adversarially review each other's changes and ping pong the branch back and forth - A makes changes, B reviews, B makes changes, A reviews. Together they're much smarter than either individually - anthropic models tend towards more creativity, openai models can get bogged down in the nitty gritty.
- adamrezich 2mo ago
  Stick with xhigh rather than turbo for most tasks though, now that the Age of Abundant Resets seems to be well and truly over for good (and 5h limits are supposedly returning soon).
danudey 2mo ago
Maybe with lower weekly quotas the load will be lower and we'll have fewer outages? A guy can dream.
20k 2mo ago
They'll all be getting around to this sooner or later, its just too expensive
- akulbe 2mo ago
  I posted on LinkedIn that I thought the future of AI will be local. I'm surprised I didn't get tarred and feathered, but it's been crickets. I do believe it though. While the subsidies of the frontier providers are nice, they can't continue forever.
  - alightsoul 2mo ago
    That means people don't believe it. Same thing when people used to say personal computers would replace mainframes.
  - ricardobayes 2mo ago
    I believe it's been crickets because open-source/DIY solutions almost never become mainstream. Devs tend to think everyone wants a self-service to save a few bucks. Most ordinary people don't care that much about privacy and if there is a solution that just works well enough to cover their needs and costs just fair enough to be affordable, they are going to use that. I feel like this is why fast food is such a thing. There are far better food options out there that either require a little bit more effort or money. Your post on Linkedin is akin to someone claiming in 1960's America that home-cooked burgers are the future, despite McDonalds gaining ground. It is also why crypto wallets and the like never took off, people don't want to give up the convenience of a bank account, understandably.
- wongarsu 2mo ago
  I get incredible utility out of $200 per month It's hard to put a number on it, but even accounting for all the time in meetings, talking with stakeholders and developers etc I'm over 10% more productive overall. I earn substantially more than $2000/month, the ROI is there It's only expensive compared to the currently very strong offering from OpenAI. Or other models - my hobby projects are all on DeepSeek
pram 2mo ago
I haven’t had any issues with Fable or Opus code-wise, but the way it has started writing recently has almost become incomprehensible. At the end of a long session it will start saying stuff like “There are smoke tests on the foundation-gates that are left for the cutting seam checks on these domains, which is genuinely your decision” Never before the past couple months have I ever not been able to understand wtf it’s even saying lol
- no_no_no_yes 2mo ago
  I'm seeing a lot of that too. I was working on a project recently that required the attribution of a data source, and it added to the "licenses" page of the project something like "We use <blah> and per their terms we owe an acknowledgement of attribution to you, the user." So in addition to the stuff it says in a session there's gobbledy gook that it prints out in copy as well.
- urams 2mo ago
  The writing really is inscrutable at times.
- brazukadev 2mo ago
  Same. especially Opus. It is unbearable.
- awareBrah 2mo ago
  Hahahaha I wasn’t sure if I was getting dumb or something. Mine finishes the tasks and then outputs paragraphs of that nonsense. But the code is great.
hgoel 2mo ago
My subscription expires tomorrow. Had subscribed ~March, eventually ended up paying for the $200 tier. However, there isn't enough of a moat for me to keep spending $200 if the models aren't being helpful anymore. The unnecessarily jargon filled language was already pretty bad, but the latest Opus/Fable also just didn't seem to go far enough when asked to look into something, often leading me in circles.
- swader999 2mo ago
  Yeah it feels like they tune or 'optimize' the models after release and they get less useful to me as time goes by. I'm most productive the first few days after a release. Noticed this since opus 4.6.
thinkingtoilet 2mo ago
I'm getting to that point as well. Has anyone noticed that sometimes claude just seems way dumber on a random day? Like they're doing some internal tweaking? Also, I'm 100% convinced that it's verbose writing style is to generate tokens to make you hit your limit quicker. I have so many rules and it still talks in this bizarrely verbose, cryptic style where it's sometimes borderline impossible to understand what it's saying.
brazukadev 2mo ago
I just cancelled my Max 5x plan. I was already mad at the limits, now Anthropic says it will get worse ? Nah, thanks.
- freepiai 1mo ago
  Well the subscriptions are kind of coming to an end anyway because they can't support the subsidies. I've been building www.freepi.ai which is totally free (ad+training) supported inference. It's using a PI harness but I have a webfrontend coming soon. I'd love your feedback!

apsurd 2mo ago

also codex + sol is really good and quite fast.

ipsod 2mo ago
I switched when 4.7 dropped, after over a year on the service. It was an immediate improvement - not even 1 hour before Codex was giving me better results with less effort.
extr 2mo ago
Unfortunately Sol does not compare to Fable at all.
- cute_boi 2mo ago
  And Fable doesn't compare to Sol at all. Fable will block on many request in name of cybersecurity, sol never does that.
  - jaggederest 2mo ago
    They're absolutely best in a chocolate-in-my-peanutbutter situation - I use them to adversarially review each other's changes and ping pong the branch back and forth - A makes changes, B reviews, B makes changes, A reviews. Together they're much smarter than either individually - anthropic models tend towards more creativity, openai models can get bogged down in the nitty gritty.
adamrezich 2mo ago
Stick with xhigh rather than turbo for most tasks though, now that the Age of Abundant Resets seems to be well and truly over for good (and 5h limits are supposedly returning soon).

danudey 2mo ago

Maybe with lower weekly quotas the load will be lower and we'll have fewer outages? A guy can dream.

20k 2mo ago

They'll all be getting around to this sooner or later, its just too expensive

akulbe 2mo ago
I posted on LinkedIn that I thought the future of AI will be local. I'm surprised I didn't get tarred and feathered, but it's been crickets. I do believe it though. While the subsidies of the frontier providers are nice, they can't continue forever.
- alightsoul 2mo ago
  That means people don't believe it. Same thing when people used to say personal computers would replace mainframes.
- ricardobayes 2mo ago
  I believe it's been crickets because open-source/DIY solutions almost never become mainstream. Devs tend to think everyone wants a self-service to save a few bucks. Most ordinary people don't care that much about privacy and if there is a solution that just works well enough to cover their needs and costs just fair enough to be affordable, they are going to use that. I feel like this is why fast food is such a thing. There are far better food options out there that either require a little bit more effort or money. Your post on Linkedin is akin to someone claiming in 1960's America that home-cooked burgers are the future, despite McDonalds gaining ground. It is also why crypto wallets and the like never took off, people don't want to give up the convenience of a bank account, understandably.
wongarsu 2mo ago
I get incredible utility out of $200 per month It's hard to put a number on it, but even accounting for all the time in meetings, talking with stakeholders and developers etc I'm over 10% more productive overall. I earn substantially more than $2000/month, the ROI is there It's only expensive compared to the currently very strong offering from OpenAI. Or other models - my hobby projects are all on DeepSeek

pram 2mo ago

I haven’t had any issues with Fable or Opus code-wise, but the way it has started writing recently has almost become incomprehensible. At the end of a long session it will start saying stuff like “There are smoke tests on the foundation-gates that are left for the cutting seam checks on these domains, which is genuinely your decision” Never before the past couple months have I ever not been able to understand wtf it’s even saying lol

no_no_no_yes 2mo ago
I'm seeing a lot of that too. I was working on a project recently that required the attribution of a data source, and it added to the "licenses" page of the project something like "We use <blah> and per their terms we owe an acknowledgement of attribution to you, the user." So in addition to the stuff it says in a session there's gobbledy gook that it prints out in copy as well.
urams 2mo ago
The writing really is inscrutable at times.
brazukadev 2mo ago
Same. especially Opus. It is unbearable.
awareBrah 2mo ago
Hahahaha I wasn’t sure if I was getting dumb or something. Mine finishes the tasks and then outputs paragraphs of that nonsense. But the code is great.

hgoel 2mo ago

My subscription expires tomorrow. Had subscribed ~March, eventually ended up paying for the $200 tier. However, there isn't enough of a moat for me to keep spending $200 if the models aren't being helpful anymore. The unnecessarily jargon filled language was already pretty bad, but the latest Opus/Fable also just didn't seem to go far enough when asked to look into something, often leading me in circles.

swader999 2mo ago
Yeah it feels like they tune or 'optimize' the models after release and they get less useful to me as time goes by. I'm most productive the first few days after a release. Noticed this since opus 4.6.

thinkingtoilet 2mo ago

I'm getting to that point as well. Has anyone noticed that sometimes claude just seems way dumber on a random day? Like they're doing some internal tweaking? Also, I'm 100% convinced that it's verbose writing style is to generate tokens to make you hit your limit quicker. I have so many rules and it still talks in this bizarrely verbose, cryptic style where it's sometimes borderline impossible to understand what it's saying.

brazukadev 2mo ago

I just cancelled my Max 5x plan. I was already mad at the limits, now Anthropic says it will get worse ? Nah, thanks.

freepiai 1mo ago
Well the subscriptions are kind of coming to an end anyway because they can't support the subsidies. I've been building www.freepi.ai which is totally free (ad+training) supported inference. It's using a PI harness but I have a webfrontend coming soon. I'd love your feedback!