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I do disagree. They've funded macOS R&D for decades without charging developers anything. Why should iOS be any different?
by robhlt 1mo ago
I do disagree. They've funded macOS R&D for decades without charging developers anything. Why should iOS be any different?
- Despegar 1mo agoIt's not against the law to create a better and more profitable business.
- EMIRELADERO 1mo agoBetter business for a specific company doesn't mean better markets for consumers and other participants, and we make laws to ensure the latter even if it's at the expense of the former.
- barnabee 1mo agoIt should be against the law to create they kind of business they have, though
- Invictus0 1mo agogo ahead and make the law then. until then it isn't
- fsflover 1mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49358814 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49358814
- y1n0 1mo agoWhy? Android has 72% of the market in 2025. As an individual company Apple has 20% of the market. Samsung has 19%. Just don't buy an iphone and move on with your life.
- Gud 1mo agoI still wish to sell to users of iOS. Apple has conveniently, for them, set themselves up as an unwanted middleman. This is only possible for them to do because they make billions per quarter and I’m a struggling solo developer. I can’t believe people are defending apple.
- swat535 1mo ago> Apple has conveniently, for them, set themselves up as an unwanted middleman. I don't see users complaining, it's mostly developers.
- Gud 1mo agoWhat’s your point? You don’t think users wouldn’t prefer to pay less for their software? Do you think most users have given this a thought? Do you think they are even aware of the issue?
- tcfhgj 1mo agoCompanies can't simply do that. In fact, you will have a guarantee of failure if e.g. your messaging app doesn't support iOS
- NetMageSCW 1mo agoIf companies had a product people cared enough about, people would stop buying iPhones.
- tcfhgj 1mo agowell, they seldomly do, which is exactly why companies are forced to it
- Aachen 1mo agoGoogle is also listening though. They are slowly introducing similar restrictions after seeing what absurdity Apple gets away with as "compliance" of needing to also allow anyone to offer software for iOS. Our mistake is thinking it's fine that apple believers get vendor lock-in because there is still Google and Android lets you run whatever code you want. Yeah, until it doesn't
- ragazzina 1mo agoIt's not, it just means when they say they "need to", they lie.
- hadlock 1mo ago[flagged]
- y1n0 1mo agoThey charged for the operating system. The first MacOS X was $130.
- protimewaster 1mo agoI think the point is that they didn't charge developers anything specifically to be developers or sell apps. They just needed the same hardware and software as everybody else, which, yes, they probably had to buy.