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Arent the USB ports on the framework also soldered on? I’m looking at a picture of the motherboard right now. Unlike my MacBook it doesn’t use a daughter board

Arent the USB ports on the framework also soldered on? I’m looking at a picture of the motherboard right now. Unlike my MacBook it doesn’t use a daughter board for the ports. It’s straight on the main board. Seems less repairable than my MacBook.

craftkiller 1mo ago
The ports on the motherboard are soldered, but you don't use them directly. You attach "expansion cards" which slide into a slot on the laptop case which locks them in place. So those ports seldom see any forces applied to them. All your day-to-day wear (plugging/unplugging, twisting, yanking) is going to be on the port on the expansion card which you can replace for $10. It's basically like a daughter board that is trivially user-replaceable rather than a daughter board that you have to open up your laptop to replace.
- pudgywalsh 1mo ago
  Everyone is familiar with Framework modules, Framework is a sacred cow on HN. It is a non-feature that results in a net loss of physical space for ports owing to their gargantuan size.
- artisinal 1mo ago
  It’s a €20 / 5 minute fix on the MacBook to swap out the USB daughterboard. The solution framework uses takes up a lot of space and doesn’t really help you if you short out the port or drop the laptop on its side.
  - craftkiller 1mo ago
    As far as I can tell, Apple doesn't sell the daughterboards so you have to go spelunking for salvaged parts with your macbook. I can get all my first-party brand-new replacement parts at https://frame.work/marketplace https://frame.work/marketplace .
    - artisinal 1mo ago
      It is available as a first party repair part for €16.20 via https://selfservicerepair.eu/ https://selfservicerepair.eu/ Apple part number is 923-03553 Also available third party via various retailers.
      - craftkiller 1mo ago
        Ah I didn't know Apple put their repair parts under a different domain. I stand corrected!

craftkiller 1mo ago

The ports on the motherboard are soldered, but you don't use them directly. You attach "expansion cards" which slide into a slot on the laptop case which locks them in place. So those ports seldom see any forces applied to them. All your day-to-day wear (plugging/unplugging, twisting, yanking) is going to be on the port on the expansion card which you can replace for $10. It's basically like a daughter board that is trivially user-replaceable rather than a daughter board that you have to open up your laptop to replace.

pudgywalsh 1mo ago
Everyone is familiar with Framework modules, Framework is a sacred cow on HN. It is a non-feature that results in a net loss of physical space for ports owing to their gargantuan size.
artisinal 1mo ago
It’s a €20 / 5 minute fix on the MacBook to swap out the USB daughterboard. The solution framework uses takes up a lot of space and doesn’t really help you if you short out the port or drop the laptop on its side.
- craftkiller 1mo ago
  As far as I can tell, Apple doesn't sell the daughterboards so you have to go spelunking for salvaged parts with your macbook. I can get all my first-party brand-new replacement parts at https://frame.work/marketplace https://frame.work/marketplace .
  - artisinal 1mo ago
    It is available as a first party repair part for €16.20 via https://selfservicerepair.eu/ https://selfservicerepair.eu/ Apple part number is 923-03553 Also available third party via various retailers.
    - craftkiller 1mo ago
      Ah I didn't know Apple put their repair parts under a different domain. I stand corrected!