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No, it's not like that at all. A calculator uses known deterministic algorithms to compute an answer. As long as you stay within the precision bounds, you'll g

No, it's not like that at all. A calculator uses known deterministic algorithms to compute an answer. As long as you stay within the precision bounds, you'll get reliable and correct answers 100% of the time. An AI is the result of randomness put through a simulated evolution, each one is different. We tend to expect them all to be the same, but that would be like redoing the big-bang until present, and expecting the dominant beings to be human, live in the same countries, speak the same languages, and believe all same cultural norms. Nobody really groks how alien AI truly is.

qarl2 1mo ago
Are you familiar with the idea of probabilistic algorithms? Determinism can be a liability.
- mikewarot 1mo ago
  Yes, I'm familiar The point I was trying to make is that a calculator never guesses at the answer, it's got an algorithm instead of a mass of predictions.
mirmor23 1mo ago
what does an internal process matter if the input to output transformations are acceptable. there are many many different ways of writing a software calculator, or a protocol stack, or codec modules; internally they may be wildly different, but as long their function mapping is identical, one's understanding does not play a role. as a more extreme example: do we all understand how our brains work? we use it every day and interact with other brains.
- pydry 1mo ago
  ive noticed a real uptick in people trusting AI for stuff like medical advice because it always seems to make sense but when it comes to a specialist topic they know a lot about they can go on and on about all of the subtle and often quite dangerous mistakes it makes.
  - mirmor23 1mo ago
    this has existed for centuries -- scientists who are religious, folks relying on quack doctors, astrology, tarot reading is nothing new. for every person willing to risk their lives by playing doctor, llm amplifies their belief, and it is not the fault of llm that the person lacked basic critical thinking skills. i don't believe technology invents human gullibility.

qarl2 1mo ago

Are you familiar with the idea of probabilistic algorithms? Determinism can be a liability.

mikewarot 1mo ago
Yes, I'm familiar The point I was trying to make is that a calculator never guesses at the answer, it's got an algorithm instead of a mass of predictions.

mirmor23 1mo ago

what does an internal process matter if the input to output transformations are acceptable. there are many many different ways of writing a software calculator, or a protocol stack, or codec modules; internally they may be wildly different, but as long their function mapping is identical, one's understanding does not play a role. as a more extreme example: do we all understand how our brains work? we use it every day and interact with other brains.

pydry 1mo ago
ive noticed a real uptick in people trusting AI for stuff like medical advice because it always seems to make sense but when it comes to a specialist topic they know a lot about they can go on and on about all of the subtle and often quite dangerous mistakes it makes.
- mirmor23 1mo ago
  this has existed for centuries -- scientists who are religious, folks relying on quack doctors, astrology, tarot reading is nothing new. for every person willing to risk their lives by playing doctor, llm amplifies their belief, and it is not the fault of llm that the person lacked basic critical thinking skills. i don't believe technology invents human gullibility.