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Lol but seriously 4th highest median wealth per capita. The median NZ citizen has 3x the wealth of the median us citizen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of

Lol but seriously 4th highest median wealth per capita. The median NZ citizen has 3x the wealth of the median us citizen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_pe... Of course they have very low wealth inequality so they don’t have trillionaires at all which some people may see as a problem. In fact remarkably despite the median wealth of NZ being so much higher than the USA they have a lower average wealth per capita. They just spread the wealth around making the middle class 3x richer.

LAC-Tech 2mo ago
That wealthy is all tied up in draughty houses. It's not real.
loeg 2mo ago
Wikipedia's (UBS') US figure ($69k) is probably wrong? US median household wealth is ~$193k[1]. I don't think there's a way to square claimed median individual wealth of $69k with that? Even taking into account children (22% population) and assuming 2 adults/household (more favorable to the math than the real 1.2-1.4 figure). I can't find anything on UBS' methodology, just the short 1.5 page paper. [1]: https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm
- nl 2mo ago
  I don't have an explanation for this but I did note that the 2023 UBS report had US Median Wealth per adult at $107K[1]. I wonder if there is a per adult vs per person vs per working person difference in the measurement or something like that? Edit: I've dug into this more, and the closest thing I can come up with for an explanation is that UBS changed its model for 2026 to "normalize household debt" in order to make it more comparable across countries. There doesn't seem to be sufficient information to explain how that change caused such a radical change. [1]https://web.archive.org/web/20230815103944/https://www.ubs.com/global/en/family-office-uhnw/reports/global-wealth-report-2023/_jcr_content/mainpar/toplevelgrid_5684475/col2/linklistnewlook/link_copy.0357374027.file/PS9jb250ZW50L2RhbS9hc3NldHMvd20vZ2xvYmFsL2ltZy9nbG9iYWwtZmFtaWx5LW9mZmljZS9kb2NzL2RhdGFib29rLWdsb2JhbC13ZWFsdGgtcmVwb3J0LTIwMjMtZW4ucGRm/databook-global-wealth-report-2023-en.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20230815103944/https://www.ubs.c...
  - loeg 2mo ago
    $107k is getting closer to being reconcilable with household $193k, yeah. The gap between $69k and $107k cannot be entirely explained by children (only 22% of population).
- SECProto 2mo ago
  > US median household wealth is ~$193k Emphasis mine. US median household is 2.53 persons [1]. 193/2.53 = 76k, which is within spitting distance of the 69k per person listed. The wikipedia is median wealth per capita [1] https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/HCN010222* https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/HCN010222*
  - loeg 2mo ago
    I think this analysis is conflating two different kinds of household -- a 2.53 (average) figure must include non-financially interdependent roommates, which aren't included in the $193k household figure.

LAC-Tech 2mo ago

That wealthy is all tied up in draughty houses. It's not real.

loeg 2mo ago

Wikipedia's (UBS') US figure ($69k) is probably wrong? US median household wealth is ~$193k[1]. I don't think there's a way to square claimed median individual wealth of $69k with that? Even taking into account children (22% population) and assuming 2 adults/household (more favorable to the math than the real 1.2-1.4 figure). I can't find anything on UBS' methodology, just the short 1.5 page paper. [1]: https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm

nl 2mo ago
I don't have an explanation for this but I did note that the 2023 UBS report had US Median Wealth per adult at $107K[1]. I wonder if there is a per adult vs per person vs per working person difference in the measurement or something like that? Edit: I've dug into this more, and the closest thing I can come up with for an explanation is that UBS changed its model for 2026 to "normalize household debt" in order to make it more comparable across countries. There doesn't seem to be sufficient information to explain how that change caused such a radical change. [1]https://web.archive.org/web/20230815103944/https://www.ubs.com/global/en/family-office-uhnw/reports/global-wealth-report-2023/_jcr_content/mainpar/toplevelgrid_5684475/col2/linklistnewlook/link_copy.0357374027.file/PS9jb250ZW50L2RhbS9hc3NldHMvd20vZ2xvYmFsL2ltZy9nbG9iYWwtZmFtaWx5LW9mZmljZS9kb2NzL2RhdGFib29rLWdsb2JhbC13ZWFsdGgtcmVwb3J0LTIwMjMtZW4ucGRm/databook-global-wealth-report-2023-en.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20230815103944/https://www.ubs.c...
- loeg 2mo ago
  $107k is getting closer to being reconcilable with household $193k, yeah. The gap between $69k and $107k cannot be entirely explained by children (only 22% of population).
SECProto 2mo ago
> US median household wealth is ~$193k Emphasis mine. US median household is 2.53 persons [1]. 193/2.53 = 76k, which is within spitting distance of the 69k per person listed. The wikipedia is median wealth per capita [1] https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/HCN010222* https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/HCN010222*
- loeg 2mo ago
  I think this analysis is conflating two different kinds of household -- a 2.53 (average) figure must include non-financially interdependent roommates, which aren't included in the $193k household figure.