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For those wondering why she's wearing wool and gloves indoors - New Zealanders typically can't afford electric heating, and wear woolen clothing in doors to to

For those wondering why she's wearing wool and gloves indoors - New Zealanders typically can't afford electric heating, and wear woolen clothing in doors to to make up for this, when they can't burn firewood or coal.

jemmyw 2mo ago
More likely a second hand book store in Newtown is an old and draughty building. Running a heater in there would be the same as running one outdoors. Or she just gets cold. My daughter wears those kind of gloves all winter regardless of how warm we heat the house.
- LAC-Tech 2mo ago
  What percentage of New Zealanders do you think live somehwere that isn't cold and draughty?
  - enquirewithin 2mo ago
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    - defrost 2mo ago
      Fairly opinionated framing given: as the country grapples with record numbers of citizens leaving the country because of a weak economy, high living costs and high unemployment. More than 60% of those moved to Australia, where average weekly incomes are higher and New Zealand citizens have work and residency rights. The spokesperson did not elaborate on when the family arrived in Australia nor what kind of work they were doing, but noted it was not unusual for former leaders to spend time overseas after leaving office. Jacinda Ardern living and working in Australia after move from US - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/26/jacinda-ardern-living-in-australia-former-nz-new-zealand-pm https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/26/jacinda-ardern... New Zealand has always been a place people with talent leave (and often return to upon retirement or making a fortune). eg: Ernest left in his post grad years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Rutherford https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Rutherford
      - enquirewithin 2mo ago
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    - totetsu 2mo ago
      s/she’s so reviled by New Zealanders/she was targeted by online extremists who threatened her family/
      - enquirewithin 2mo ago
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  - jemmyw 2mo ago
    Well my house isn't cold and draughty so at least 0.0001%
kiwih 2mo ago
Often kiwis can afford it but just choose not to. My own parents are well off and yet still have an absolutely freezing house all winter, it drives me crazy. Just put on a sweater, and another one over that, and a blanket....
- mixmastamyk 2mo ago
  Electricity was several times more expensive than in the US when we were there, and houses not insulated well. Sock hats and fingerless wool gloves it is.
AnotherGoodName 2mo ago
Lol but seriously 4th highest median wealth per capita. The median NZ citizen has 3x the wealth of the median us citizen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_pe... Of course they have very low wealth inequality so they don’t have trillionaires at all which some people may see as a problem. In fact remarkably despite the median wealth of NZ being so much higher than the USA they have a lower average wealth per capita. They just spread the wealth around making the middle class 3x richer.
- LAC-Tech 2mo ago
  That wealthy is all tied up in draughty houses. It's not real.
- loeg 2mo ago
  Wikipedia's (UBS') US figure ($69k) is probably wrong? US median household wealth is ~$193k[1]. I don't think there's a way to square claimed median individual wealth of $69k with that? Even taking into account children (22% population) and assuming 2 adults/household (more favorable to the math than the real 1.2-1.4 figure). I can't find anything on UBS' methodology, just the short 1.5 page paper. [1]: https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm
  - nl 2mo ago
    I don't have an explanation for this but I did note that the 2023 UBS report had US Median Wealth per adult at $107K[1]. I wonder if there is a per adult vs per person vs per working person difference in the measurement or something like that? Edit: I've dug into this more, and the closest thing I can come up with for an explanation is that UBS changed its model for 2026 to "normalize household debt" in order to make it more comparable across countries. There doesn't seem to be sufficient information to explain how that change caused such a radical change. [1]https://web.archive.org/web/20230815103944/https://www.ubs.com/global/en/family-office-uhnw/reports/global-wealth-report-2023/_jcr_content/mainpar/toplevelgrid_5684475/col2/linklistnewlook/link_copy.0357374027.file/PS9jb250ZW50L2RhbS9hc3NldHMvd20vZ2xvYmFsL2ltZy9nbG9iYWwtZmFtaWx5LW9mZmljZS9kb2NzL2RhdGFib29rLWdsb2JhbC13ZWFsdGgtcmVwb3J0LTIwMjMtZW4ucGRm/databook-global-wealth-report-2023-en.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20230815103944/https://www.ubs.c...
potatosalad99 2mo ago
That’s a funny callback to last weeks RNZ article https://www.rnz.co.nz/life/wellbeing/cosy-ways-to-keep-warm-this-winter-without-turning-the-heater-on https://www.rnz.co.nz/life/wellbeing/cosy-ways-to-keep-warm-...
anigbrowl 2mo ago
Imagine thinking that wearing a sweater in wintertime means you're poor. Couldn't be me. The gloves are a special kind made of thermal material for people with Raynaud's disease, where narrowing of the blood vessels reduces circulation in cold temperatures.
- LAC-Tech 2mo ago
  I went to school 3 minutes walk from that bookshop. I know what those draughty sashcord windowed shitbox houses are like.
  - anigbrowl 2mo ago
    This seems like a weirdly personal issue for you.
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- annzabelle 2mo ago
  Have you ever been to New Zealand? People here don't/can't really heat their houses properly.
mrbukkake 2mo ago
What a load of shite

jemmyw 2mo ago

More likely a second hand book store in Newtown is an old and draughty building. Running a heater in there would be the same as running one outdoors. Or she just gets cold. My daughter wears those kind of gloves all winter regardless of how warm we heat the house.

LAC-Tech 2mo ago
What percentage of New Zealanders do you think live somehwere that isn't cold and draughty?
- enquirewithin 2mo ago
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  - defrost 2mo ago
    Fairly opinionated framing given: as the country grapples with record numbers of citizens leaving the country because of a weak economy, high living costs and high unemployment. More than 60% of those moved to Australia, where average weekly incomes are higher and New Zealand citizens have work and residency rights. The spokesperson did not elaborate on when the family arrived in Australia nor what kind of work they were doing, but noted it was not unusual for former leaders to spend time overseas after leaving office. Jacinda Ardern living and working in Australia after move from US - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/26/jacinda-ardern-living-in-australia-former-nz-new-zealand-pm https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/26/jacinda-ardern... New Zealand has always been a place people with talent leave (and often return to upon retirement or making a fortune). eg: Ernest left in his post grad years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Rutherford https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Rutherford
    - enquirewithin 2mo ago
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  - totetsu 2mo ago
    s/she’s so reviled by New Zealanders/she was targeted by online extremists who threatened her family/
    - enquirewithin 2mo ago
      [flagged]
- jemmyw 2mo ago
  Well my house isn't cold and draughty so at least 0.0001%

kiwih 2mo ago

Often kiwis can afford it but just choose not to. My own parents are well off and yet still have an absolutely freezing house all winter, it drives me crazy. Just put on a sweater, and another one over that, and a blanket....

mixmastamyk 2mo ago
Electricity was several times more expensive than in the US when we were there, and houses not insulated well. Sock hats and fingerless wool gloves it is.

AnotherGoodName 2mo ago

Lol but seriously 4th highest median wealth per capita. The median NZ citizen has 3x the wealth of the median us citizen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_pe... Of course they have very low wealth inequality so they don’t have trillionaires at all which some people may see as a problem. In fact remarkably despite the median wealth of NZ being so much higher than the USA they have a lower average wealth per capita. They just spread the wealth around making the middle class 3x richer.

LAC-Tech 2mo ago
That wealthy is all tied up in draughty houses. It's not real.
loeg 2mo ago
Wikipedia's (UBS') US figure ($69k) is probably wrong? US median household wealth is ~$193k[1]. I don't think there's a way to square claimed median individual wealth of $69k with that? Even taking into account children (22% population) and assuming 2 adults/household (more favorable to the math than the real 1.2-1.4 figure). I can't find anything on UBS' methodology, just the short 1.5 page paper. [1]: https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm
- nl 2mo ago
  I don't have an explanation for this but I did note that the 2023 UBS report had US Median Wealth per adult at $107K[1]. I wonder if there is a per adult vs per person vs per working person difference in the measurement or something like that? Edit: I've dug into this more, and the closest thing I can come up with for an explanation is that UBS changed its model for 2026 to "normalize household debt" in order to make it more comparable across countries. There doesn't seem to be sufficient information to explain how that change caused such a radical change. [1]https://web.archive.org/web/20230815103944/https://www.ubs.com/global/en/family-office-uhnw/reports/global-wealth-report-2023/_jcr_content/mainpar/toplevelgrid_5684475/col2/linklistnewlook/link_copy.0357374027.file/PS9jb250ZW50L2RhbS9hc3NldHMvd20vZ2xvYmFsL2ltZy9nbG9iYWwtZmFtaWx5LW9mZmljZS9kb2NzL2RhdGFib29rLWdsb2JhbC13ZWFsdGgtcmVwb3J0LTIwMjMtZW4ucGRm/databook-global-wealth-report-2023-en.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20230815103944/https://www.ubs.c...

potatosalad99 2mo ago

That’s a funny callback to last weeks RNZ article https://www.rnz.co.nz/life/wellbeing/cosy-ways-to-keep-warm-this-winter-without-turning-the-heater-on https://www.rnz.co.nz/life/wellbeing/cosy-ways-to-keep-warm-...

anigbrowl 2mo ago

Imagine thinking that wearing a sweater in wintertime means you're poor. Couldn't be me. The gloves are a special kind made of thermal material for people with Raynaud's disease, where narrowing of the blood vessels reduces circulation in cold temperatures.

LAC-Tech 2mo ago
I went to school 3 minutes walk from that bookshop. I know what those draughty sashcord windowed shitbox houses are like.
- anigbrowl 2mo ago
  This seems like a weirdly personal issue for you.
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annzabelle 2mo ago
Have you ever been to New Zealand? People here don't/can't really heat their houses properly.

mrbukkake 2mo ago

What a load of shite