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Fable is almost unusable for anything but super boring mainstream stuff. I was getting safeguard flagged so often I’ve significantly reduced my usage out of fea
by alchemist1e9 2mo ago
Fable is almost unusable for anything but super boring mainstream stuff. I was getting safeguard flagged so often I’ve significantly reduced my usage out of fear they will blacklist/ban me.
Some of the topics it’s flagged have been hard for me to understand what it seeing that can be remotely concerning in my requests.
- andai 2mo agoThe safety is really funny to me. I ask it a lot of extreme stuff and it goes through, but I ask it mundane stuff and hit the filters all the time.
- vintermann 2mo agoIt has learned a little too well how it works in human society.
- vjvjvjvjghv 2mo agoReminds me of the URL blocking of my company. Nature.com is being blocked but I can access a ton of super sketchy download sites.
- xscott 2mo agoI've gotten flagged for asking questions about tokens and tensors. That makes me believe it's not about safety, it's about protecting their turf. I cancelled my subscription - same fear about getting flagged too much leading to a ban.
- KronisLV 2mo agoOpenAI and Kimi are both pretty okay alternatives! I guess GLM 5.3 on Max reasoning as well but for more limited domains.
- vineyardmike 2mo agoThey said they also block usage of Claude models to build ML models. Which is definitely protecting their turf, but also probably a little bit hiding their “RSI” abilities for competitive reasons. My theory is that a lot of “safety blocking” is actually WIP training of new business directions. Anthropic has started hiring biologists and has opened a preview of a “Claude code for bioinformatics”. I’m guessing they’re tweaking their bioinformatics market play, and block “bio safety” requests so competitors can’t learn about their training.
- xscott 2mo agoWhat's the distinction between "protecting their turf" and "competitive reasons"? I see them as the same, but I could be missing something. That's an interesting thought on the current "safety blocking" being a trial run for the topics that scare people (bio). You're more charitable about their motives than I am, but you might be right.
- vineyardmike 2mo agoMy differentiation for this comment, was “preventing someone from using your product to build a competitor” vs “letting a competitor see your strengths/weakness to benchmark against you”. Competition is competition and it’s two sides of the same coin.
- alchemist1e9 2mo agoI agree. It’s flagged me on discussing fast GEMM implementations for large regressions, a discussion on theoretical physics math, a discussion on designing a type of RAG system. I’m super baffled as to what the safety instructions actually are other than “advanced anything” and even then their definition of advanced is a joke, I’m an idiot and my questions are almost laughable.
- xscott 2mo agoSame here - my questions were sophomore level. I think it's notable that when I edited my question to say it was about Gemma 4, it answered without blocking. A cynic like myself would interpret that as evidence they don't care about sharing information if it involves their competitors.
- fragmede 1mo agoGetting downgraded for asking "What is digestion" to Fable is where it's just ridiculous and clearly a limitation of the technologies involved.
- runtime_lens 2mo ago[flagged]
- krull10 2mo agoI cancelled my Claude max subscription. Somehow every query I sent was flagged as bio or chem, even pure mathematics questions. Not going to waste money paying for a “max” subscription that won’t ever let me use the top tier model… Sol is great and has never blocked a request, and generally gives great answers. Happily switched over to it now.