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Hard Out Here for a [Web 2.0] Pimp.

29 points by Mistone 18y ago

JeremyChase 18y ago
I am disturbed that I found this blog post useful, but despite the jargon it has some ring of truth. I do think that people who contribute content are also very likely to be distributing it as well though, and I don't really think that the distributors are an entirely different segment. I guess there are some die hard distributors out there, but I'm not sure what their motivation is.. thoughts?
- Mistone 18y ago
  useful maybe, funny yes. i agree that there may not be a whole 3rd segment, but the channels for distribution are really important to consider and if the content is going to go viral, its because of the distributors.
- dmoney 18y ago
  Being seen as someone in the know. Or because karma is a number and must be increased.
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mattjaynes 18y ago
Translation: Many content sites only really consider two types of users: content creators and content consumers. However, there is a third and more important user that is often overlooked: content distributors (the users who will share the content).
- coglethorpe 18y ago
  Thank you for that, as I do not speak Jive.
  - davemc500hats 18y ago
    ++ for Airplane reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xHPU6NulM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xHPU6NulM
jmtame 18y ago
I've used the analogy which has been previously downvoted, but startups hold a lot of similarities with "the hustle." Not like "do the hustle", but "the hustle." Anyway, the analogy I like to use is the one where Birdman encourages his listeners to "take straight shots, then pop bottles. flirt with the hood rats, then pop models." You can see this in the typical game of raising funds. At first, you don't know what you're doing and your pitch will probably suck. So it probably doesn't hurt to start with some VCs that you probably would never consider having a serious relationship with (flirt with the hood rats). In other words, why start at the very top of Sand Hill Road? After a while, you get good at your pitch, your demo starts to look really nice, and so on. Now you're ready to "pop models", or talk to the VCs who you actually would be interested in working with, if the opportunity presented itself. The video for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ3I4YY4YJA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ3I4YY4YJA
bk 18y ago
He makes a fair point, but his argument would have been greatly enhanced if he had presented a specific example/redesign to illustrate it. Solving the "how" is the hard part. Oftentimes, when people keep a point abstract, it's because it doesn't translate as powerfully into the specifics of the real world as the abstract version makes it sound.
dmoney 18y ago
Most of the time, entrepreneurs think about 2 types of users: * Visitors ("Johns") * Contributors ("HOs") Shouldn't that be "Hoes"?
- Jem 18y ago
  A hoe is a garden tool.
patio11 18y ago
It would be a shame if the sordid nature of that post caused anyone to miss the slide from the Startups Metric presentation, which is excellent. http://www.slideshare.net/dmc500hats/numbers-not-napkins-simple-startup-metrics-presentation?src=embed http://www.slideshare.net/dmc500hats/numbers-not-napkins-sim... It also includes the only pirate joke that will ever make you money.

29 points by Mistone 18y ago

I am disturbed that I found this blog post useful, but despite the jargon it has some ring of truth. I do think that people who contribute content are also very likely to be distributing it as well though, and I don't really think that the distributors are an entirely different segment. I guess there are some die hard distributors out there, but I'm not sure what their motivation is.. thoughts?

Mistone 18y ago
useful maybe, funny yes. i agree that there may not be a whole 3rd segment, but the channels for distribution are really important to consider and if the content is going to go viral, its because of the distributors.
dmoney 18y ago
Being seen as someone in the know. Or because karma is a number and must be increased.

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mattjaynes 18y ago

Translation: Many content sites only really consider two types of users: content creators and content consumers. However, there is a third and more important user that is often overlooked: content distributors (the users who will share the content).

coglethorpe 18y ago
Thank you for that, as I do not speak Jive.
- davemc500hats 18y ago
  ++ for Airplane reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xHPU6NulM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xHPU6NulM

jmtame 18y ago

I've used the analogy which has been previously downvoted, but startups hold a lot of similarities with "the hustle." Not like "do the hustle", but "the hustle." Anyway, the analogy I like to use is the one where Birdman encourages his listeners to "take straight shots, then pop bottles. flirt with the hood rats, then pop models." You can see this in the typical game of raising funds. At first, you don't know what you're doing and your pitch will probably suck. So it probably doesn't hurt to start with some VCs that you probably would never consider having a serious relationship with (flirt with the hood rats). In other words, why start at the very top of Sand Hill Road? After a while, you get good at your pitch, your demo starts to look really nice, and so on. Now you're ready to "pop models", or talk to the VCs who you actually would be interested in working with, if the opportunity presented itself. The video for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ3I4YY4YJA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ3I4YY4YJA

bk 18y ago

He makes a fair point, but his argument would have been greatly enhanced if he had presented a specific example/redesign to illustrate it. Solving the "how" is the hard part. Oftentimes, when people keep a point abstract, it's because it doesn't translate as powerfully into the specifics of the real world as the abstract version makes it sound.

dmoney 18y ago

Most of the time, entrepreneurs think about 2 types of users: * Visitors ("Johns") * Contributors ("HOs") Shouldn't that be "Hoes"?

Jem 18y ago
A hoe is a garden tool.

patio11 18y ago

It would be a shame if the sordid nature of that post caused anyone to miss the slide from the Startups Metric presentation, which is excellent. http://www.slideshare.net/dmc500hats/numbers-not-napkins-simple-startup-metrics-presentation?src=embed http://www.slideshare.net/dmc500hats/numbers-not-napkins-sim... It also includes the only pirate joke that will ever make you money.