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Exactly, like what happened to me when I tried to be a vegetarian.

by b112 2mo ago

hermitcrab 2mo ago
People who try to become vegetarians because they think they should rarely last. You need to want to. (context: vegetarian for 40 years, apart from the occasional bit of white fish).
- thin_carapace 2mo ago
  please somebody bottle this lesson distill it and start teaching it to kids using a framework of similar pro social behaviour
jambalaya8 2mo ago
Hmm. I think you sorta need to feel "you should" before you "want to", for most people. I have gone through periods of veganism, lacto-vegetarianism, ovo-lacto vegetarianism, ovo-lacto-pescatarian (and with and without poultry), etc. At the end of the day, my body was not built to be vegetarian in any capacity. It stops working properly without red meat, even (even when I try to supplement iron in other ways, my body literally does not function properly). I can go without chicken, but not other animal sources. It's a shame; I sort of didn't mind the food if it was prepared properly, but it is dangerous to suggest everyone can follow the same diet.
- b112 2mo ago
  This is somewhat, what happened to me. I found I lost all energy, and my strength was about half what it was. We all have unique biomes in our gut, and they're tailored to us. If you lose it, eg something kills all your gut bacteria, you will be very sick. The only cure is to have a transplant from a relative. Literally fecal matter is taken from a donar, pureed, and shoved up your wahzoo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant My point? Your and my gut bacteria may need meat, and it could be why some cannot do the vegan thing. If your gut bacteria isn't happy, you aren't. And you can't just swap that out.
  - esseph 2mo ago
    https://www.allergicliving.com/2026/08/10/fecal-transplant-pills-for-peanut-allergy-advance-to-phase-2-trial/ https://www.allergicliving.com/2026/08/10/fecal-transplant-p... You can probably just put some poop in a gelcap... (this is not medical advice!) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7359198/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7359198/
    - b112 2mo ago
      Yes, but this study isn't replacing the entire biome. What I was citing, was a case of people having lost their gut bacteria completely. They use a relative, as using a random person in such cases, which isn't a match for that person's genetic history, can be quite harmful. It's precisely why they seek a close relative. Adding some additional gut bacteria doesn't replace everything you have. Otherwise, you'd get sick from eating a salad someone else prepared, and ingesting some of their bacteria. The peanut thing may be introducing an additional bacterium which perhaps processes peanuts in a better fashion, but without supplanting anything? So I won't say you're wrong. But without trials I won't say you're right, either.
      - esseph 2mo ago
        > This is somewhat, what happened to me. I found I lost all energy, and my strength was about half what it was. Lots of online reports about the effectiveness of this (dangerous, at-home, self-administered) treatment. It will probably be another 10-15y before widely and cheaply available. Some don't or didn't want to wait, but there are definite risks.
        b112 2mo ago
        What you linked was to peanuts. I have no issue with peanuts. Nor will I eat random bacteria because some dudes on a forum or tiktok say so. I'm fine eating meat. It's healthy for me. I merely described the situation as a FYI.
        2mo ago

Exactly, like what happened to me when I tried to be a vegetarian.

by b112 2mo ago

Exactly, like what happened to me when I tried to be a vegetarian.

People who try to become vegetarians because they think they should rarely last. You need to want to. (context: vegetarian for 40 years, apart from the occasional bit of white fish).

thin_carapace 2mo ago
please somebody bottle this lesson distill it and start teaching it to kids using a framework of similar pro social behaviour

jambalaya8 2mo ago

Hmm. I think you sorta need to feel "you should" before you "want to", for most people. I have gone through periods of veganism, lacto-vegetarianism, ovo-lacto vegetarianism, ovo-lacto-pescatarian (and with and without poultry), etc. At the end of the day, my body was not built to be vegetarian in any capacity. It stops working properly without red meat, even (even when I try to supplement iron in other ways, my body literally does not function properly). I can go without chicken, but not other animal sources. It's a shame; I sort of didn't mind the food if it was prepared properly, but it is dangerous to suggest everyone can follow the same diet.

b112 2mo ago
This is somewhat, what happened to me. I found I lost all energy, and my strength was about half what it was. We all have unique biomes in our gut, and they're tailored to us. If you lose it, eg something kills all your gut bacteria, you will be very sick. The only cure is to have a transplant from a relative. Literally fecal matter is taken from a donar, pureed, and shoved up your wahzoo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant My point? Your and my gut bacteria may need meat, and it could be why some cannot do the vegan thing. If your gut bacteria isn't happy, you aren't. And you can't just swap that out.
- esseph 2mo ago
  https://www.allergicliving.com/2026/08/10/fecal-transplant-pills-for-peanut-allergy-advance-to-phase-2-trial/ https://www.allergicliving.com/2026/08/10/fecal-transplant-p... You can probably just put some poop in a gelcap... (this is not medical advice!) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7359198/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7359198/
  - b112 2mo ago
    Yes, but this study isn't replacing the entire biome. What I was citing, was a case of people having lost their gut bacteria completely. They use a relative, as using a random person in such cases, which isn't a match for that person's genetic history, can be quite harmful. It's precisely why they seek a close relative. Adding some additional gut bacteria doesn't replace everything you have. Otherwise, you'd get sick from eating a salad someone else prepared, and ingesting some of their bacteria. The peanut thing may be introducing an additional bacterium which perhaps processes peanuts in a better fashion, but without supplanting anything? So I won't say you're wrong. But without trials I won't say you're right, either.
    - esseph 2mo ago
      > This is somewhat, what happened to me. I found I lost all energy, and my strength was about half what it was. Lots of online reports about the effectiveness of this (dangerous, at-home, self-administered) treatment. It will probably be another 10-15y before widely and cheaply available. Some don't or didn't want to wait, but there are definite risks.
      - b112 2mo ago
        What you linked was to peanuts. I have no issue with peanuts. Nor will I eat random bacteria because some dudes on a forum or tiktok say so. I'm fine eating meat. It's healthy for me. I merely described the situation as a FYI.
        2mo ago