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It's good you can isolate yourself from it. But there's plenty of cases. Open source maintainers being harassed or being demanded work through Github's issues.

by artyom 2mo ago

It's good you can isolate yourself from it. But there's plenty of cases. Open source maintainers being harassed or being demanded work through Github's issues. Or being feed AI slop to review endlessly. Or recruiters filtering resumes via Github activity graphs or repository stars. And obviously the side shady market of all of the above (e.g. buying/selling popularity). Like the parent comment, I can't wait for social media to be completely obliterated from code repositories.

fn-mote 2mo ago
> Open source maintainers being harassed or being demanded work through Github's issues This isn't "psyops". Sure, it's a bad side of social interactions, but when you interact with other people, there's always some of this - in person as well as online. The lead-off argument here seems more like "interacting with society can be bad". I have no argument that selling popularity is bad and filtering by stars is stupid, but I don't blame Github for any of that. You could equally well assign the success of certain coders to YouTube because they came to attention by showing off their work in livestreams. Which I do not. They found a way to advertise their own success, but it's theirs.
- artyom 2mo ago
  > The lead-off argument here seems more like "interacting with society can be bad". The argument is that there's no need for that much social interaction to produce quality code, quite the contrary, the more social interaction, the more focus is lost. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but there's a reason why the Linux Kernel communication is still done through acerbic email threads.
creato 2mo ago
None of this is specific to GitHub. The exact same problems will sometimes happen any time users and developers communicate, which is a basic requirement of developing useful software. I doubt GitHub issues are worse than mailing lists or any other mechanism.
- nemomarx 2mo ago
  They almost have to be - which users will be able to get to your issues page and which will be able to find a mailing list? You'll have a much more selective audience in the latter
ascii0eks84 2mo ago
Demanding work isn't really an issue. Anyone can do that, and also reject the work. Dishonest actors on the other hand would take money for someone else's work.

by artyom 2mo ago

fn-mote 2mo ago

> Open source maintainers being harassed or being demanded work through Github's issues This isn't "psyops". Sure, it's a bad side of social interactions, but when you interact with other people, there's always some of this - in person as well as online. The lead-off argument here seems more like "interacting with society can be bad". I have no argument that selling popularity is bad and filtering by stars is stupid, but I don't blame Github for any of that. You could equally well assign the success of certain coders to YouTube because they came to attention by showing off their work in livestreams. Which I do not. They found a way to advertise their own success, but it's theirs.

artyom 2mo ago
> The lead-off argument here seems more like "interacting with society can be bad". The argument is that there's no need for that much social interaction to produce quality code, quite the contrary, the more social interaction, the more focus is lost. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but there's a reason why the Linux Kernel communication is still done through acerbic email threads.

creato 2mo ago

None of this is specific to GitHub. The exact same problems will sometimes happen any time users and developers communicate, which is a basic requirement of developing useful software. I doubt GitHub issues are worse than mailing lists or any other mechanism.

nemomarx 2mo ago
They almost have to be - which users will be able to get to your issues page and which will be able to find a mailing list? You'll have a much more selective audience in the latter

ascii0eks84 2mo ago

Demanding work isn't really an issue. Anyone can do that, and also reject the work. Dishonest actors on the other hand would take money for someone else's work.