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> Dario must think people are stupid. All of those guys think people are stupid. That theme has been repeating over and over again.

dmd 2mo ago
To be fair, the vast majority of people are stupid, in one way or another. Or do you believe that you are smart in every way there is to be smart?
- Razengan 2mo ago
  You just have to find the correct prompts for them, and keep them away from getting mad at any of the ACTUALLY evil shit in the world, like weapons manufacturers, 24/7 global surveillance, perpetual debt and wage slavery, factory farms, constantly dwindling personal freedoms, and a handful of people owning all of it and not allowing anything that empowers the common peasant.
- GPerson 2mo ago
  You’re just inventing an imaginary interpretation of what that guy said and pompously dismissing it.
CamperBob2 2mo ago
Donald Trump still maintains a 39% approval rating among the electorate. It turns out that a lot of people are indeed quite stupid.
- sscaryterry 2mo ago
  Go look at Putin's numbers :) None of those number as real.
- nonameiguess 2mo ago
  There's a reasonably high floor here it seems you can't realistically do anything to drop below. Check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_app... Nixon was 24% when he resigned, which is amusingly not actually the lowest, as Truman seems to have twice achieved a spot rating of 22, though Nixon remains the lowest rating for a full year. I wonder what Truman did to be less liked than Nixon. Those were both well after dropping bombs on Japan and before the first H-bomb test.
- andrekandre 2mo ago
  > quite stupid years of misinformation and confirmation bias + social bubbles will do that
  - goekjclo 2mo ago
    I fully agree. https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/the-closure-of-the-internet https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/the-closure-of-the-inter... is a great read, when it comes to social bubbles and misinformation
- palmotea 2mo ago
  > Donald Trump still maintains a 39% approval rating among the electorate. It turns out that a lot of people are indeed quite stupid. No. It's partisanship and polarization, which has little to do with intelligence. But there's one thing that I know is stupid: assuming the reason opposite pole doesn't do what you think they should is because they're full of stupids.
  - CamperBob2 2mo ago
    No, it has everything to do with intelligence. What you are saying is correct in the context of traditional liberal/conservative axes of debate, but that's no longer the basis for discussion. Liberal or conservative, left or right, authoritarian or libertarian, it doesn't matter: if you (still) think Trump is the right man for the job, then you are either a criminal or other subversive agent, a glassy-eyed cultist, or stupid. Failure to call out stupidity when we see it is no virtue, to paraphrase Goldwater. It is costing us everything we built as a society over the last 250 years.
    - palmotea 2mo ago
      > ...if you (still) think Trump is the right man for the job, then you are either a criminal or other subversive agent, a glassy-eyed cultist, or stupid. No. I personally don't like Trump, and looking forward to the day he's gone, but: 1. Thinking of your opponents are stupid (or some kind of cartoon villain) is itself a really stupid attitude to take. It might feel righteous, but it blinds you. Some of them may actually be literally stupid, but there's no value in even thinking about them. Looked at objectively, there's also lot of stupid on all sides. See: much of the Democrats'/progressives' reaction to Trump. 2. Approval is complicated. It's not a choice made in a vacuum. American politics nowadays is (for many people) a choice between the best of bad options. Partisanship exacerbates it, because it makes many of the alternatives seem even more loathsome. 3. Not everyone is a news junkie, and expressing approval of Trump (for instance), may not be even meant to be an evaluation of his job performance. 4. etc.

dmd 2mo ago

To be fair, the vast majority of people are stupid, in one way or another. Or do you believe that you are smart in every way there is to be smart?

Razengan 2mo ago
You just have to find the correct prompts for them, and keep them away from getting mad at any of the ACTUALLY evil shit in the world, like weapons manufacturers, 24/7 global surveillance, perpetual debt and wage slavery, factory farms, constantly dwindling personal freedoms, and a handful of people owning all of it and not allowing anything that empowers the common peasant.
GPerson 2mo ago
You’re just inventing an imaginary interpretation of what that guy said and pompously dismissing it.

CamperBob2 2mo ago

Donald Trump still maintains a 39% approval rating among the electorate. It turns out that a lot of people are indeed quite stupid.

sscaryterry 2mo ago
Go look at Putin's numbers :) None of those number as real.
nonameiguess 2mo ago
There's a reasonably high floor here it seems you can't realistically do anything to drop below. Check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_app... Nixon was 24% when he resigned, which is amusingly not actually the lowest, as Truman seems to have twice achieved a spot rating of 22, though Nixon remains the lowest rating for a full year. I wonder what Truman did to be less liked than Nixon. Those were both well after dropping bombs on Japan and before the first H-bomb test.
andrekandre 2mo ago
> quite stupid years of misinformation and confirmation bias + social bubbles will do that
- goekjclo 2mo ago
  I fully agree. https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/the-closure-of-the-internet https://arctotherium.substack.com/p/the-closure-of-the-inter... is a great read, when it comes to social bubbles and misinformation
palmotea 2mo ago
> Donald Trump still maintains a 39% approval rating among the electorate. It turns out that a lot of people are indeed quite stupid. No. It's partisanship and polarization, which has little to do with intelligence. But there's one thing that I know is stupid: assuming the reason opposite pole doesn't do what you think they should is because they're full of stupids.
- CamperBob2 2mo ago
  No, it has everything to do with intelligence. What you are saying is correct in the context of traditional liberal/conservative axes of debate, but that's no longer the basis for discussion. Liberal or conservative, left or right, authoritarian or libertarian, it doesn't matter: if you (still) think Trump is the right man for the job, then you are either a criminal or other subversive agent, a glassy-eyed cultist, or stupid. Failure to call out stupidity when we see it is no virtue, to paraphrase Goldwater. It is costing us everything we built as a society over the last 250 years.
  - palmotea 2mo ago
    > ...if you (still) think Trump is the right man for the job, then you are either a criminal or other subversive agent, a glassy-eyed cultist, or stupid. No. I personally don't like Trump, and looking forward to the day he's gone, but: 1. Thinking of your opponents are stupid (or some kind of cartoon villain) is itself a really stupid attitude to take. It might feel righteous, but it blinds you. Some of them may actually be literally stupid, but there's no value in even thinking about them. Looked at objectively, there's also lot of stupid on all sides. See: much of the Democrats'/progressives' reaction to Trump. 2. Approval is complicated. It's not a choice made in a vacuum. American politics nowadays is (for many people) a choice between the best of bad options. Partisanship exacerbates it, because it makes many of the alternatives seem even more loathsome. 3. Not everyone is a news junkie, and expressing approval of Trump (for instance), may not be even meant to be an evaluation of his job performance. 4. etc.