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Man, I see this stuff, and I think, "my god! think of the opportunity we have to replace the current economic system with something where we're not all in a fi
by piloto_ciego 2mo ago
Man, I see this stuff, and I think, "my god! think of the opportunity we have to replace the current economic system with something where we're not all in a fierce knife fight to try to stay employed so we don't starve!"
We have to stop fearing the machines and start fearing the firmware running on our brains! It's capitalism that's the problem, not the robots... if anything the robots can liberate us from capital's death grip!
- grebc 2mo agoIt’s amusing to imagine the oligarchs are going to anymore charitable than currently.
- SR2Z 2mo agoIt's not their choice, no matter how much they'd like it to be. The Chinese models are able to distill outputs into a model of slightly worse performance within a few weeks of each release, and the same copyright exemptions which protect these guys scraping also protect China. As long as their lobbyists don't win (and the deck is stacked against them, make no mistake) the future of AI is not going to be owned by the frontier labs.
- piloto_ciego 2mo agoThey don't have to be charitable. We can literally take it from them. I get why people don't like to think about that sort of thing, but... yeah. We could make AI a sort of public good and do something like the Permanent Fund Dividend or something. There's lots of options even in the "reformist" way of thinking about it. But we shouldn't be naive.
- grebc 2mo agoOh yeah don’t be naive, but we’ll just take what we want. Ok bro.
- piloto_ciego 2mo agoI mean, we've done it before lol
- red-iron-pine 2mo agowith muskets, not social media that has already made a reasonably good guess at your actual name and address. a ding to the social credit score but not enough for a drone or ICE team to be dispatched to your address. but that might change.
- piloto_ciego 2mo agoNew times require new techniques.
- digitaltrees 2mo agoThere werent drones and palintir and flock. Protesters were just sentenced to 50 years in prison.
- inigyou 2mo agoYou can't use HN to advocate for violent uprising.
- archagon 2mo agoYes, you must launder any advocacy for violence through the use of neutral language like “defense industry,” which has wide support and even VC funding around here.
- digitaltrees 2mo agoDid you ever stop to think why that shift has happened? if you want to stop mass objection to oppressing a population owning drone company is a good portfolio asset.
- inigyou 2mo agoThere's nothing violent about the defense industry.
- archagon 2mo agoThere's nothing violent about eminent domain, either. (Also... LOL.)
- piloto_ciego 2mo agoNow did I advocate for that? There's a hell of a lot of room between laissez faire ancap nonsense and October Revolution. The binary thinking in this thread and the lack of creativity is just... astounding to me.
- skupig 2mo ago>replace the current economic system with something where we're not all in a fierce knife fight to try to stay employed Jobs will become even more scarce, so how does that follow? >robots can liberate us from capital's death grip We are already live in a world sufficiently technologically advanced to feed and house everyone, and yet we don't.
- trescenzi 2mo agoIf Dario was up there preaching about replacing today with Star Trek I think people wouldn’t hate it. Everything those at the head of this project say amounts to the current state except abject poverty for everyone but them. When Dario donates his share in Anthropic to fight hunger I’ll consider being optimistic that capital is going anywhere.
- Yizahi 2mo agoPlease correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no trekkie myself, but isn't Star Trek timeline starts with a series or world wars in 21st century which results in a nuclear holocaust and a big fraction of planet inhabitants exterminated? Doesn't sound very enticing honestly :)
- arbot360 2mo agoStarting with the Bell Riots in SF, September 2024 which happened as a consequence of the unemployment and homelessness crisis there.
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- digitaltrees 2mo agoIts not capitalism thats the problem, its that monopolies and capital concentration destroy capitalism, and we have let monopolies and capital concentration run uncheck for several generations. A capitalist system would be only small local businesses, no walmarts, no Tyson chicken, no google, when you have 1000s of small producers competing the price setting function of a market actually works, and the wealth is distributed among all the producers rather than the Walton family.
- skupig 2mo agoYeah, or to put it a different way, an ineffective, easily corrupted, and insufficiently representative government is the problem.