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I suspect they misunderstood the "HTML5 is not ready" statement. Indeed, HTML5 can perform, and the future is bright. However, as plenty of people in the commen

by spydum 14y ago

I suspect they misunderstood the "HTML5 is not ready" statement. Indeed, HTML5 can perform, and the future is bright. However, as plenty of people in the comments here have mentioned, for mainstream devices.. it's not ready. The frameworks are still coming up a learning curve, the hardware devices out there are still struggling to adopt proper HTML5 support and decent performance. Those points alone lend credit to the fact that it's just not ready.

marknutter 14y ago
Yes, but it will be ready, and the question is will devs and firms that have invested all their time into native development be ready too? It would be prudent to be ahead of the curve when the horizon is so clearly visible.
- mattmanser 14y ago
  It was also clearly visible 3 years ago. It's nice to be an HTML5 advocate, but lets be realistic, it's 3-4 years before HTML5 will be coming even close to native in performance or tooling. In the meantime all those native developers will be kicking your ass in earnings and functionality.
  - marknutter 14y ago
    > In the meantime all those native developers will be kicking your ass in earnings and functionality. There's no need to get testy. There's no reason why HTML5 proponents can't implement some or even all of their apps in Native code (as I do). Without getting into a religious war, though, it's important to understand where the puck is going in addition to where it is currently.
- spydum 14y ago
  The problem with being a platform that serves such a large audience (indeed, one that gets paid based on the eyeballs it can sustain) is that you need to cater to the largest range of devices and their performance. It's the same reason enterprises still support such obscure browsers and OS's (XP/IE6). They just aren't willing to sacrifice the overall experience of those who are slow to upgrade in favor of pushing the technology forward.
  - marknutter 14y ago
    You don't have to support obscure markets if you don't want to. I'd say covering iOs 5+ and Android 2.3+ is going to cover an area most companies would be pretty happy with. And let's not forget that OS fragmentation affects Native developers just like it does HTML5 developers (especially on Android).

by spydum 14y ago

marknutter 14y ago

Yes, but it will be ready, and the question is will devs and firms that have invested all their time into native development be ready too? It would be prudent to be ahead of the curve when the horizon is so clearly visible.

mattmanser 14y ago
It was also clearly visible 3 years ago. It's nice to be an HTML5 advocate, but lets be realistic, it's 3-4 years before HTML5 will be coming even close to native in performance or tooling. In the meantime all those native developers will be kicking your ass in earnings and functionality.
- marknutter 14y ago
  > In the meantime all those native developers will be kicking your ass in earnings and functionality. There's no need to get testy. There's no reason why HTML5 proponents can't implement some or even all of their apps in Native code (as I do). Without getting into a religious war, though, it's important to understand where the puck is going in addition to where it is currently.
spydum 14y ago
The problem with being a platform that serves such a large audience (indeed, one that gets paid based on the eyeballs it can sustain) is that you need to cater to the largest range of devices and their performance. It's the same reason enterprises still support such obscure browsers and OS's (XP/IE6). They just aren't willing to sacrifice the overall experience of those who are slow to upgrade in favor of pushing the technology forward.
- marknutter 14y ago
  You don't have to support obscure markets if you don't want to. I'd say covering iOs 5+ and Android 2.3+ is going to cover an area most companies would be pretty happy with. And let's not forget that OS fragmentation affects Native developers just like it does HTML5 developers (especially on Android).