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I truly wish that Oracle wasn't so aggressively hostile WRT licensing enforcement, because its DB capabilities are insane. I've never operated it, but all the d

I truly wish that Oracle wasn't so aggressively hostile WRT licensing enforcement, because its DB capabilities are insane. I've never operated it, but all the docs I've read are legitimately impressive. I support getting paid for your product, but charging per-core/thread is frankly absurd, and charging for cores that aren't even being used by the product is beyond the pale.

mike_hearn 2mo ago
Licensing in the cloud is like all cloud services, cost scales with use. I think you're talking about on prem usage which isn't relevant to most new users.
- btown 2mo ago
  Does this apply if using cloud environments other than Oracle's own though? (Which is a far cry from on-prem, and relevant to perhaps a vast majority of businesses.) Documents like https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/cloud-licensing-070579.pdf https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/cloud-licensing-070579.pd... suggest that licensing for these environments is complicated at best, with the onus of reporting lying on the customer not the cloud provider.
  - mike_hearn 2mo ago
    Yes. That doc is for the case where you run everything yourself and just use cloud VMs; not an option for most modern cloud only database. Pay as you go offerings can be found here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/oracle/oracle-db/oracle-database-autonomous-database-services https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/oracle/oracle-db/ora... https://docs.aws.amazon.com/odb/latest/UserGuide/what-is-odb.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/odb/latest/UserGuide/what-is-odb...