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> Nobody in planet modelling has ever suggested that the 3 phase El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) We saw already around 2020 or so that specialists opinion

> Nobody in planet modelling has ever suggested that the 3 phase El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) We saw already around 2020 or so that specialists opinions didn't really matter. Feelings and politicians opinions were more relevant... so "nobody in planet modelling" means nothing if Politicians and Activists tries to create this link.. Al Gore, if I remember correctly, and António Guterres, i think last month, tried to create this link already.. probably others too?

watwut 2mo ago
The most anti-facts and anti reality bulshit comes from people who mock feelings and opinions while framing themselves as factual and u biases. Especially in climate change "debate".
- pelasaco 2mo ago
  or the said "experts" hungry for media attention.. we saw it all
  - watwut 2mo ago
    I have no idea who you are talking about. You want to imply doubt about climate change without saying it, using dog whistles and vague accusations of "feelings". You did not stated a single fact, you apparently dont know much about topic, but you know some experts and politicians opinions are wrong.
    - throw1234567891 2mo ago
      Tell us facts. Who’s facts are these facts.
      - wookmaster 2mo ago
        Facts? 42 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide are released into the atmosphere by humans every year changing the atmosphere composition from ~300 ppm 100 years ago to ~420 ppm today. CO2 Is chemically stable in the atmosphere and can persist for centuries. CO2 catches thermal radiation from the earth and traps it. These are all scientific facts that are indisputable. We can also show that its a fact heat affects weather and its not a very far stretch to trapping more heat every year with more CO2 affects global weather. Trapping more heat across the globe AKA global warming are indisputable facts. We can measure CO2 levels every year and global temperature trends. Doesnt matter who says it, there's a ton of peer reviewed science for every statement there. What's to dispute?
bbor 2mo ago
It honestly blows my mind y’all are still around and up to the same ol tricks. Let me guess: you’re still mad about the hockeystick?
defrost 2mo ago
I can't speak to what former US vice presidents and UN politicians may or may not have said, I've not seen Gore's movie, I don't watch UN speeches. I have spent a few decades in exploration geophysics at world scale; gravity, tides, radiometrics, upward & downward continuations of magnetic fields, etc is more my speed. I suspect you may have some confusion, trapped heat from the sun's visible light drives ENSO (a kind of delayed oscillator with noise) and so human added insulation trapping more heat drives ENSO harder (like pushing a kid on a swing harder) but human activity didn't create ENSO - the atmospheric climate cells and swing sets were already there long before humans first planted crops.

watwut 2mo ago

The most anti-facts and anti reality bulshit comes from people who mock feelings and opinions while framing themselves as factual and u biases. Especially in climate change "debate".

pelasaco 2mo ago
or the said "experts" hungry for media attention.. we saw it all
- watwut 2mo ago
  I have no idea who you are talking about. You want to imply doubt about climate change without saying it, using dog whistles and vague accusations of "feelings". You did not stated a single fact, you apparently dont know much about topic, but you know some experts and politicians opinions are wrong.
  - throw1234567891 2mo ago
    Tell us facts. Who’s facts are these facts.
    - wookmaster 2mo ago
      Facts? 42 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide are released into the atmosphere by humans every year changing the atmosphere composition from ~300 ppm 100 years ago to ~420 ppm today. CO2 Is chemically stable in the atmosphere and can persist for centuries. CO2 catches thermal radiation from the earth and traps it. These are all scientific facts that are indisputable. We can also show that its a fact heat affects weather and its not a very far stretch to trapping more heat every year with more CO2 affects global weather. Trapping more heat across the globe AKA global warming are indisputable facts. We can measure CO2 levels every year and global temperature trends. Doesnt matter who says it, there's a ton of peer reviewed science for every statement there. What's to dispute?

bbor 2mo ago

It honestly blows my mind y’all are still around and up to the same ol tricks. Let me guess: you’re still mad about the hockeystick?

defrost 2mo ago

I can't speak to what former US vice presidents and UN politicians may or may not have said, I've not seen Gore's movie, I don't watch UN speeches. I have spent a few decades in exploration geophysics at world scale; gravity, tides, radiometrics, upward & downward continuations of magnetic fields, etc is more my speed. I suspect you may have some confusion, trapped heat from the sun's visible light drives ENSO (a kind of delayed oscillator with noise) and so human added insulation trapping more heat drives ENSO harder (like pushing a kid on a swing harder) but human activity didn't create ENSO - the atmospheric climate cells and swing sets were already there long before humans first planted crops.