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What a sad retelling of reality. A large amount of ikea furniture is not cheap particle board crap. they have a range of materials for all of their products, a

What a sad retelling of reality. A large amount of ikea furniture is not cheap particle board crap. they have a range of materials for all of their products, and even some of the medium end products look nice and hold well. Additionally, many middle-class families have "back in the day" stories where their houses were filled with bare essentials for which i'm sure an ikea bed frame would feel like an upgrade. I think the real IKEA problem is global homogeneity (there seems to be a MALM dresser whatever home i'm in around the world), but that doesnt mean we are collectively living with a low standard.

blub 2mo ago
Names and links or they don’t exist :) Even their absolute high-end stuff is at best particle board with veneer. And you can bet the back will still be that thin 3mm fiberboard, no matter how high-end they look. Unfortunately, top models nowadays have more and more hollow panels. Seems to me that quality’s going down and they’re trying to save money with the materials they offer. But they can still be a good enough compromise, as I found out when looking for e.g. a TV sideboard.
- Rebuff5007 2mo ago
  How lazy do you have to be... within seconds of hitting ikea.com: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/skogsta-table-acacia-black-00452643 https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/skogsta-table-acacia-black-0045... https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/hemnes-chest-of-6-drawers-white-stain-60239273 https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/hemnes-chest-of-6-drawers-white... The wood types are clearly labeled, so its not something they are trying to hide. And i'm not sure why hollow panels in itself are necessarily a bad thing...cutting down on material without hurting design or functionality has plenty of benefits (environmental, weight, cost).
  - blub 2mo ago
    For chests of drawers and bookcases they have one configurable wood product. All the storage solutions for the living room are tiny and almost all of them are made of unstained pine. For wardrobes they have two products, one of which is open and looks bad and the other’s tiny. There are no wood equivalents to Pax, Platsa or Besta, the Ikea workhorses with a modern design. And even if they existed, I don’t think people would rush to buy them. Solid wood’s not what Ikea’s known for and would cost too much for their target market. I’m not saying they’re bad - I own several of their products, and while I’m overall pleased with them, I don’t love them. The compromises and cost-cutting design choices are always there if you know what to look for. None of my Ikea furniture brings me joy or makes me want to touch it. It’s functional and looks decent to good. Hollow panels are too light, not robust enough and essentially unrepairable. One could buy some Ikea pieces and cut them / adapt them in irder to upgrade them. These panels make that impossible.

blub 2mo ago

Names and links or they don’t exist :) Even their absolute high-end stuff is at best particle board with veneer. And you can bet the back will still be that thin 3mm fiberboard, no matter how high-end they look. Unfortunately, top models nowadays have more and more hollow panels. Seems to me that quality’s going down and they’re trying to save money with the materials they offer. But they can still be a good enough compromise, as I found out when looking for e.g. a TV sideboard.

Rebuff5007 2mo ago
How lazy do you have to be... within seconds of hitting ikea.com: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/skogsta-table-acacia-black-00452643 https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/skogsta-table-acacia-black-0045... https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/hemnes-chest-of-6-drawers-white-stain-60239273 https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/hemnes-chest-of-6-drawers-white... The wood types are clearly labeled, so its not something they are trying to hide. And i'm not sure why hollow panels in itself are necessarily a bad thing...cutting down on material without hurting design or functionality has plenty of benefits (environmental, weight, cost).
- blub 2mo ago
  For chests of drawers and bookcases they have one configurable wood product. All the storage solutions for the living room are tiny and almost all of them are made of unstained pine. For wardrobes they have two products, one of which is open and looks bad and the other’s tiny. There are no wood equivalents to Pax, Platsa or Besta, the Ikea workhorses with a modern design. And even if they existed, I don’t think people would rush to buy them. Solid wood’s not what Ikea’s known for and would cost too much for their target market. I’m not saying they’re bad - I own several of their products, and while I’m overall pleased with them, I don’t love them. The compromises and cost-cutting design choices are always there if you know what to look for. None of my Ikea furniture brings me joy or makes me want to touch it. It’s functional and looks decent to good. Hollow panels are too light, not robust enough and essentially unrepairable. One could buy some Ikea pieces and cut them / adapt them in irder to upgrade them. These panels make that impossible.