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Most people agree on basic values. It's really not that big a stretch to appeal to such common values, seeing as rapid global warming would cause mass relocatio
by lucb1e 2mo ago
Most people agree on basic values. It's really not that big a stretch to appeal to such common values, seeing as rapid global warming would cause mass relocation, suffering, adaptation costs for those who can stay put, etc.
- gottorf 2mo ago> Most people agree on basic values This isn't even true at a local level, let alone at the global scale.
- fragmede 2mo agoYeah they do, on the really basic stuff, on a global level.
- lucb1e 2mo agoNot really the topic here but I actually think most people agree on most things; everyone wants to do right by them and theirs. We just focus on the areas where we differ in opinion on how to get there and have things to discuss
- HighGoldstein 2mo agoDo you believe half the human population should have the same rights as the other half? I'd say this is rather basic, yet the subject of much disagreement.
- lucb1e 2mo agoBit of an easy claim without concrete examples as I gave. Would hold more water if you'd tell us which local or global culture does not have basic decency towards each other as a value / wants to cause any of the things I mentioned such as forced relocation
- zahlman 2mo ago> if you'd tell us which local or global culture does not have basic decency towards each other as a value Look around the thread at how people are treating each other, and then keep in mind that HN is probably like 99th percentile for civility on the Internet in this regard. Look at what happens in threads about any other politically charged issue, for that matter. Heck, look how far the discussion will veer into politically charged off-topic matters, whenever the OP is about some meta-level "how to be convincing" "how to argue fairly" etc. point.
- Timon3 2mo agoConsidering how current world powers are heavily increasing military spending as well as the heavy rightward shift in many governments, I'm no longer convinced we'll do the right thing. It feels more and more like poor countries will be left to fend for themselves, so the "developed world" can plunder the remains to prop ourselves up just a bit longer.