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ChatGPT lost 22 points of web share in a year
- echohive42 2mo agoWorldwide AI-chatbot web visits: ChatGPT 76% → 54%. Gemini 6% → 28%. Claude 1% → 9%. This is not monthly users and not revenue.
- andai 2mo agoI understand Claude being niche (until they started running Superbowl ads?), but why'd it take Google this long to start catching up?
- fzzzy 2mo agoBecause Google's AIs are absolutely awful?
- bdangubic 2mo agothey are good enough for 89.56% of ChatGPT users
- andxor 2mo agoReally? This just tells me you haven't tried it in a long time. I'd argue it's a much better experience for the average user.
- Gud 2mo agoIt lies constantly and is only useful for shallow information. At least the non-paying version.
- a2ff6eeb0 2mo agoBecause they were slow rolling them out, and heavily focused on the profitable corporate customers.
- Forgeties79 2mo agoAlternate headline: “After three years of unprecedented investment including governments, Facebook, and Google dumping money into the promise of AI, ChatGPT still has over 50% of the traffic.” Also, grok isn’t been on that list, further proving that no serious people use it.
- A_D_E_P_T 2mo agoGrok is there, just a little bit too small to label. Dark brown on the chart. 4.6 is a good model, by the way. Legitimately frontier-level and a good communicator.
- PufPufPuf 2mo agoWhose worldview is it communicating, though?
- Forgeties79 2mo agoDidn’t I just see on HN the other day that it has “be humorous and irreverent” baked into its system prompt? Something like that?
- xyzzy_plugh 2mo agoGemini is actually good enough for pretty much everyone I know who is not in tech and uses Android. These people are downright pleased with Google's AI summaries. The fact that Google can push Gemini out in so many ways with their existing marketshare is mind boggling. The fact that ChatGPT hasn't lost 50-100% of web share shows it's Google's game to lose at this point.
- dyauspitr 2mo agoBut are they paying for Gemini?
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- ipdashc 2mo ago> These people are downright pleased with Google's AI summaries. Consider me part of "those people", I guess, but are you guys not, at this point? There was a period near the start where they were bad, but I find them perfectly usable now. I'll often open a tab, Google something, and just read the summary because it's basically instant and I don't need any more than just that, a summary. I'm genuinely confused why people take so much issue with them. Sure they're still wrong sometimes, but it's blatantly obvious when that's the case, and I can just scroll past.
- paimapi 2mo agohave you ever done the fun trick of asking any model to adversarially review itself? highly recommended practice for anyone who trusts a one-shot output
- ipdashc 2mo agoSure, I've done this for more complicated questions and sometimes it reveals flaws. But I don't use Google for anything complicated. Generally it's just to get a quick vague definition of a term, pretty much.
- thot_experiment 2mo ago54% to go, good work team.
- Retr0id 2mo agoI think it'd be more informative to see total users per provider, rather than % shares.
- AndrewKemendo 2mo agoGiven this anyone still thinking Google lost needs to update their belief system
- fragmede 2mo agoLost at what, though? Waymo is gonna pan out but they sold their domain business to squarespace despite having GCP, and Google workspace deletes data when changing billing which is absolutely unacceptable.
- xyzzy_plugh 2mo agoThe domain business is a distraction. It was wise to sell it. They still own several gTLDs so they have plenty of revenue from this avenue. Selling .coms and Donut's gTLDs? Peanuts. Godaddy makes all their money from other stuff, and Google still does lots of other stuff. Google Workspace still prints money.
- fragmede 2mo agoDistraction? It's about vertical integration and being a one-stop-shop for people that want to have a website/SaaS business.
- AndrewKemendo 2mo agoLost at “AI” or some vague statement
- VCFundedGenYer 2mo agoGoogle has lost $302.8B while only making $25B on AI. That's not only losing, but record-setting losing.
- AndrewKemendo 2mo agoHow much money was “lost” on the three gorges dam or any major infrastructure project? Google has a completely different payoff timeline than you seem to They are bigger than most governments and invest in decade horizons
- 0xbadcafebee 2mo agoI used to use Gemini (the product) because it's free. But its responses are so incredibly bad, and the interface has so many dumb bugs, that I stopped using it and switched to OpenCode Go models + Web UI. Gemini models can recite deep knowledge, but they can't do constructive things, can't do extended web research, can't provide more than a couple options for an answer. Either their system prompt is nerfed like crazy or the models just suck at agentic work. Even ChatGPT from 2025 was better than Gemini today.
- OutOfHere 2mo agoGemini's Deep Research is pretty good. In contrast, strangely enough, ChatGPT nerfed its Deep Research offering, although a custom GPT or Work mode can trivially make up for it. I admit that Google's offerings generally have too many serious bugs to be usable.
- inerte 2mo agoWhat's the methodology? Is Gemini actual gemini.google.com or mixed with google.com and Android searches?
- xnx 2mo agoThis source-ier chart is much better: https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/6213ddd7bd3eb8fb93bf1da4/6a43db1b0d2bb97825c167d4_C3-share-trend.png https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/6213ddd7bd3eb8fb93bf1da4/... Stacked charts might be 2nd only to pie charts in badness.