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A nitpick about the title: Not strictly abdominal fat, but visceral abdominal fat, which surrounds the organs. Not all abdominal fat is visceral; in fact, in ma

A nitpick about the title: Not strictly abdominal fat, but visceral abdominal fat, which surrounds the organs. Not all abdominal fat is visceral; in fact, in many people the majority is not. The article mentions visceral early on, which is the subject.

weird-eye-issue 2mo ago
If you have a lot of abdominal fat then you also have visceral fat so it's just a proxy
- Noaidi 2mo ago
  This is not true. It is what is called “skinny fat“.
  - weird-eye-issue 2mo ago
    If you are skinny fat you still have noticeable abdominal fat. You might not see it when somebody has a t-shirt on but it's still very obvious
    - weird-eye-issue 2mo ago
      To put this another way skinny fat just means you are not overweight but you have a high body fat percentage (eg lacking lean mass). So while you might not look like the average American there will still be significant visible abdominal fat, likely love handles, etc
- mohamedkoubaa 2mo ago
  It's not a remotely good proxy
  - weird-eye-issue 2mo ago
    Seriously, you don't think there's a connection between visceral fat and abdominal fat even though there's plenty of evidence that there is along with just common sense? It's just a particular type of abdominal fat so obviously the more abdominal fat that you can see it means you also have more of the type that can't see as well... It's not that complicated
    - mohamedkoubaa 2mo ago
      The amount of body fat and ways the body stores fat are highly uncorrelated for people who are not severely obese, and severe obesity itself might be made worse over time by high levels of visceral fat.
      - weird-eye-issue 2mo ago
        Yes visceral fat is metabolically active so it can make you more fat But I'm not sure why you think you can have a lot of visceral fat without any obvious abdominal fat
  - therealdrag0 2mo ago
    “In this meta-analysis, BMI and WC, but not WHR, were very strongly correlated with imaging-derived total and subcutaneous abdominal fat. By comparison, all three measures were moderately or strongly correlated with imaging-based visceral abdominal fat, with WC showing the greatest correlation.” https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10503139/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10503139/ Seems decent to me.

weird-eye-issue 2mo ago

If you have a lot of abdominal fat then you also have visceral fat so it's just a proxy

Noaidi 2mo ago
This is not true. It is what is called “skinny fat“.
- weird-eye-issue 2mo ago
  If you are skinny fat you still have noticeable abdominal fat. You might not see it when somebody has a t-shirt on but it's still very obvious
  - weird-eye-issue 2mo ago
    To put this another way skinny fat just means you are not overweight but you have a high body fat percentage (eg lacking lean mass). So while you might not look like the average American there will still be significant visible abdominal fat, likely love handles, etc
mohamedkoubaa 2mo ago
It's not a remotely good proxy
- weird-eye-issue 2mo ago
  Seriously, you don't think there's a connection between visceral fat and abdominal fat even though there's plenty of evidence that there is along with just common sense? It's just a particular type of abdominal fat so obviously the more abdominal fat that you can see it means you also have more of the type that can't see as well... It's not that complicated
  - mohamedkoubaa 2mo ago
    The amount of body fat and ways the body stores fat are highly uncorrelated for people who are not severely obese, and severe obesity itself might be made worse over time by high levels of visceral fat.
    - weird-eye-issue 2mo ago
      Yes visceral fat is metabolically active so it can make you more fat But I'm not sure why you think you can have a lot of visceral fat without any obvious abdominal fat
- therealdrag0 2mo ago
  “In this meta-analysis, BMI and WC, but not WHR, were very strongly correlated with imaging-derived total and subcutaneous abdominal fat. By comparison, all three measures were moderately or strongly correlated with imaging-based visceral abdominal fat, with WC showing the greatest correlation.” https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10503139/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10503139/ Seems decent to me.