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> What is so dangerous We can make up plenty of scenarios where it's dangerous, but even without those, can we not just... not like something? To use the commo

by ipdashc 2mo ago

> What is so dangerous We can make up plenty of scenarios where it's dangerous, but even without those, can we not just... not like something? To use the common analogy, my neighbor staring at me through the window all the time wouldn't be dangerous. But it's weird, it's uncomfortable. Can we just not do it? I want to be able to drive places without my movements being logged. Clearly many millions of people agree, given the backlash against Flock. This isn't some essential technology, we got along just fine without it. I would also like it if people would wake up to their phones tracking them, etc, and demand that laws be passed to deal with that. But this is a good start!

nullbio 2mo ago
And what percentage of that backlash is by people with a criminal record? And what percentage of these criminals are the ones pushing the narrative of this being some grave invasion of privacy that must be stopped for "mah freedom"? It's easy to work people up about anything involving monitoring, their brains immediately shut down and think emotionally about the subject. But not all forms of monitoring are equivalent, and some of it is useful and has net-benefit.
- ipdashc 2mo ago
  Lol pretty much everyone I've seen talking about Flock is a terminally online nerdy type (myself included). The people I see protesting it in the news and such are either similar young privacy-minded people or boomers. I don't think either of these groups tend to have criminal records, nor that there's a grand conspiracy of petty criminals working together to get rid of Flock, the one superhero that would defeat them once and for all. Maybe it's easy to work people up about it because people don't like being monitored. I agree it's not all equivalent and some of it is useful, but people have clearly made their voices heard that they think blanket license plate recording is excessive and makes them uncomfortable. Perhaps society will listen.
  - nullbio 2mo ago
    Until now the only uproar I've seen about it has been people posting Tiktok videos of them cutting down cameras or burning them with lasers, ergo commiting crimes.
    - ipdashc 2mo ago
      "People with a criminal record" sort of implies that they were criminals before the whole Flock thing and are angry at Flock because they are criminals. Regardless, I'm not sure where you're going with this. The Tiktokers actually going out and cutting down cameras are probably 0.01% of the "vaguely mad at Flock/ALPR" group.

by ipdashc 2mo ago

nullbio 2mo ago

And what percentage of that backlash is by people with a criminal record? And what percentage of these criminals are the ones pushing the narrative of this being some grave invasion of privacy that must be stopped for "mah freedom"? It's easy to work people up about anything involving monitoring, their brains immediately shut down and think emotionally about the subject. But not all forms of monitoring are equivalent, and some of it is useful and has net-benefit.

ipdashc 2mo ago
Lol pretty much everyone I've seen talking about Flock is a terminally online nerdy type (myself included). The people I see protesting it in the news and such are either similar young privacy-minded people or boomers. I don't think either of these groups tend to have criminal records, nor that there's a grand conspiracy of petty criminals working together to get rid of Flock, the one superhero that would defeat them once and for all. Maybe it's easy to work people up about it because people don't like being monitored. I agree it's not all equivalent and some of it is useful, but people have clearly made their voices heard that they think blanket license plate recording is excessive and makes them uncomfortable. Perhaps society will listen.
- nullbio 2mo ago
  Until now the only uproar I've seen about it has been people posting Tiktok videos of them cutting down cameras or burning them with lasers, ergo commiting crimes.
  - ipdashc 2mo ago
    "People with a criminal record" sort of implies that they were criminals before the whole Flock thing and are angry at Flock because they are criminals. Regardless, I'm not sure where you're going with this. The Tiktokers actually going out and cutting down cameras are probably 0.01% of the "vaguely mad at Flock/ALPR" group.