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Same. I have bad "factual" memory, but very good "conceptual" memory. I might not remember exactly what someone told me, but I probably gathered a keyword, and

Same. I have bad "factual" memory, but very good "conceptual" memory. I might not remember exactly what someone told me, but I probably gathered a keyword, and a feeling and idea of what they told me. Almost like it takes what they said then compresses it into my mind in a nice little multi-key lookup table.

s3tt3mbr1n1 1mo ago
Thanks, I feel seen.
- zamalek 1mo ago
  In my, admittedly extremely small sample set, concept-focused memory is common for people with any degree or kind of dyslexia. I used to struggle with understanding how people couldn't understand things, now that I'm more mature it makes sense how people struggled with me not being able to spell things :).
  - skydhash 1mo ago
    I do not have dyslexia. I’ve been reading since I was a little kid. I don’t easily recall words or things that I’ve heard. But I’ve got a very good visual memory, especially remembering patterns. And I can easily visualize things too, even the somewhat abstract concepts. So if I put a visual bend on something I can quickly understand it and remember it, but that bend has to be mind (even when helped by an image on a book). If it’s someone else’s, I’ll be very hard pressed to remember it (but I can easily remember where it was). So at school, when I had to cram, I fill my head with images and things like that. And with the help of the exams (written) and memory of the classes, I worked out the answers.
    - wdutch 1mo ago
      Thanks for sharing, I am absolutely fascinated with the differences in people's internal experiences. For me, I have the bad "factual" memory and good "conceptual" memory but unlike you, I also have aphantasia: a completely "dark" mind with no visuals. I've always used the metaphor that my brain has really good "compression". Once I learn something it gets compressed into my worldview. I don't know how or why I know it but I can apply it. If academic achievement is any benchmark, I can apply it with above average aptitude.
  - pwython 1mo ago
    Yep, terrible speller -- bad at pronunciation too (by the way I just autocorrected that word) -- and I often wonder how people, who are much more intelligent than me on paper, can't figure out random tasks that just seem obvious.
mbrumlow 1mo ago
Oh man, I have that too. I am always told by my best friend "well, you go it right, but entirely wrong words" -- or something to the effect I got the feeling, notion, or concept right, but the wrong words. This has affected me a lot though, I know what is going on in songs, but can't ever remember the right words, but still some how end up sining stuff that means the same thing :/
pwython 1mo ago
Yes. "Weak detail recall but strong fluid reasoning, conceptual/gist memory, and adaptive problem-solving" is how GPT sums up what I feel. And "high fluid intelligence" is a label it gave that I won't be using anytime soon... But I like the sound of it.
- cwnyth 1mo ago
  You might benefit from (proper, not the multiple choice kind) aptitude testing.
  - pwython 1mo ago
    What are the benefits? What would/could I do with the results?
    - anonym29 1mo ago
      Save money on future dates by causing the woman to leave before she even orders dinner after you pull out your Mensa© Membership card.
    - cwnyth 1mo ago
      Most people come in for educational or career guidance, but I think it's best used as a way of understanding how your mind works, especially in relation to others'. The on-the-flying reasoning isn't pitted against good memory (there also isn't a single "memory", but we have different strengths for remembering words, stories, ideas, shapes, faces, numbers, melodies, and rhythms), but against a more methodical and well-prepared presenter. The on-the-fly reasoners are also quicker to see patterns and make connections among disparate data. It's great for trial law, but not so great (or distracting at best) for tax law, where you can't just wing it.
- gilrain 1mo ago
  You asked an LLM to reason about you, for you, and it said you’re an adroit reasoner? It must have context we lack!
gcanyon 1mo ago
For me it's one step removed from that: I'll remember exactly what I was told or what I read, but not at all who told me or where I read it. My brain does not care about sources.

s3tt3mbr1n1 1mo ago

Thanks, I feel seen.

zamalek 1mo ago
In my, admittedly extremely small sample set, concept-focused memory is common for people with any degree or kind of dyslexia. I used to struggle with understanding how people couldn't understand things, now that I'm more mature it makes sense how people struggled with me not being able to spell things :).
- skydhash 1mo ago
  I do not have dyslexia. I’ve been reading since I was a little kid. I don’t easily recall words or things that I’ve heard. But I’ve got a very good visual memory, especially remembering patterns. And I can easily visualize things too, even the somewhat abstract concepts. So if I put a visual bend on something I can quickly understand it and remember it, but that bend has to be mind (even when helped by an image on a book). If it’s someone else’s, I’ll be very hard pressed to remember it (but I can easily remember where it was). So at school, when I had to cram, I fill my head with images and things like that. And with the help of the exams (written) and memory of the classes, I worked out the answers.
  - wdutch 1mo ago
    Thanks for sharing, I am absolutely fascinated with the differences in people's internal experiences. For me, I have the bad "factual" memory and good "conceptual" memory but unlike you, I also have aphantasia: a completely "dark" mind with no visuals. I've always used the metaphor that my brain has really good "compression". Once I learn something it gets compressed into my worldview. I don't know how or why I know it but I can apply it. If academic achievement is any benchmark, I can apply it with above average aptitude.
- pwython 1mo ago
  Yep, terrible speller -- bad at pronunciation too (by the way I just autocorrected that word) -- and I often wonder how people, who are much more intelligent than me on paper, can't figure out random tasks that just seem obvious.

mbrumlow 1mo ago

Oh man, I have that too. I am always told by my best friend "well, you go it right, but entirely wrong words" -- or something to the effect I got the feeling, notion, or concept right, but the wrong words. This has affected me a lot though, I know what is going on in songs, but can't ever remember the right words, but still some how end up sining stuff that means the same thing :/

pwython 1mo ago

Yes. "Weak detail recall but strong fluid reasoning, conceptual/gist memory, and adaptive problem-solving" is how GPT sums up what I feel. And "high fluid intelligence" is a label it gave that I won't be using anytime soon... But I like the sound of it.

cwnyth 1mo ago
You might benefit from (proper, not the multiple choice kind) aptitude testing.
- pwython 1mo ago
  What are the benefits? What would/could I do with the results?
  - anonym29 1mo ago
    Save money on future dates by causing the woman to leave before she even orders dinner after you pull out your Mensa© Membership card.
  - cwnyth 1mo ago
    Most people come in for educational or career guidance, but I think it's best used as a way of understanding how your mind works, especially in relation to others'. The on-the-flying reasoning isn't pitted against good memory (there also isn't a single "memory", but we have different strengths for remembering words, stories, ideas, shapes, faces, numbers, melodies, and rhythms), but against a more methodical and well-prepared presenter. The on-the-fly reasoners are also quicker to see patterns and make connections among disparate data. It's great for trial law, but not so great (or distracting at best) for tax law, where you can't just wing it.
gilrain 1mo ago
You asked an LLM to reason about you, for you, and it said you’re an adroit reasoner? It must have context we lack!

gcanyon 1mo ago

For me it's one step removed from that: I'll remember exactly what I was told or what I read, but not at all who told me or where I read it. My brain does not care about sources.