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> Here, they aren't agreeing with it whatsoever Yeah, that's the core difference in our readings I think, the mere fact that they say openly they welcome someo

> Here, they aren't agreeing with it whatsoever Yeah, that's the core difference in our readings I think, the mere fact that they say openly they welcome someone contributing the feature, does mean they agree with it, why offer to accept such a contribution otherwise? Are they lying/not being honest, and the PR would just sit there without being accepted. It's clear you think so, and it does feel like you have past experience with the project so I guess that is what it is. I don't have your past experience, so I don't know, but hits me as strange to ask for contributions for a feature you don't actually want, I don't understand why'd they do that. > They could be encouraging people to submit PRs The text I read, gave me the impression they are encouraging people to submit PRs, but maybe there is something between the lines I'm missed when I read it.

LoganDark 2mo ago
They say they welcome contributions in general and that users generally don't submit PRs to go with their feature requests. They don't say they will accept a PR for the specific feature or that they want one. As much as it may seem obvious, it's technically not what they said. > It's clear you think so, and it does feel like you have past experience with the project so I guess that is what it is. I don't have your past experience, so I don't know, but hits me as strange to ask for contributions for a feature you don't actually want, I don't understand why'd they do that. I was a member of a discussion I linked in another comment about password complexity requirements, but I do not have experience with raising other issues or trying to get features accepted, so none of this is a simple grudge, just a very pedantic reading of their response. I do have experience with manipulators that use exactly this kind of language to make good implications that they don't actually intend to honor. (Including myself at points.) So maybe my reading is unnecessarily pessimistic, but it's not based on some prior experience with them, just the particular way they made their statement.
- embedding-shape 2mo ago
  > They don't say they will accept a PR for the specific feature Again, to me it's 100% clear they would accept a PR, but I guess there is nuance in "we welcome community contributions" and "your PR would be greatly appreciated"... Also again, obviously you've already made up your mind. But as the perspective of someone who never interacted with the project, the impression (based on their words) is that they'd like a PR for this feature. Besides "they don't intend to honor it!1!" which is essentially a guess, do you have any previous cases where they actually explicitly said they'd accept a contribution and then they dragged their feet accepting it/rejected it?
  - LoganDark 2mo ago
    I think we should agree to disagree here -- I read their comment and it says they generally accept contributions, but nothing about the specific contribution. You read their comment and it looks perfectly clear to you that they're looking to accept the specific contribution.

LoganDark 2mo ago

They say they welcome contributions in general and that users generally don't submit PRs to go with their feature requests. They don't say they will accept a PR for the specific feature or that they want one. As much as it may seem obvious, it's technically not what they said. > It's clear you think so, and it does feel like you have past experience with the project so I guess that is what it is. I don't have your past experience, so I don't know, but hits me as strange to ask for contributions for a feature you don't actually want, I don't understand why'd they do that. I was a member of a discussion I linked in another comment about password complexity requirements, but I do not have experience with raising other issues or trying to get features accepted, so none of this is a simple grudge, just a very pedantic reading of their response. I do have experience with manipulators that use exactly this kind of language to make good implications that they don't actually intend to honor. (Including myself at points.) So maybe my reading is unnecessarily pessimistic, but it's not based on some prior experience with them, just the particular way they made their statement.

embedding-shape 2mo ago
> They don't say they will accept a PR for the specific feature Again, to me it's 100% clear they would accept a PR, but I guess there is nuance in "we welcome community contributions" and "your PR would be greatly appreciated"... Also again, obviously you've already made up your mind. But as the perspective of someone who never interacted with the project, the impression (based on their words) is that they'd like a PR for this feature. Besides "they don't intend to honor it!1!" which is essentially a guess, do you have any previous cases where they actually explicitly said they'd accept a contribution and then they dragged their feet accepting it/rejected it?
- LoganDark 2mo ago
  I think we should agree to disagree here -- I read their comment and it says they generally accept contributions, but nothing about the specific contribution. You read their comment and it looks perfectly clear to you that they're looking to accept the specific contribution.