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> Outages happen as a result of the system's design being shoddy in the first place, and an attitude where bugs shipped are acceptable because it's only a singl
by orf 2mo ago
> Outages happen as a result of the system's design being shoddy in the first place, and an attitude where bugs shipped are acceptable because it's only a single component, rest of the system shouldn't fail.
This is correct for some classes of failure but not others. If your authorization system goes down, should you just let any request pass? No.
You also need to fail correctly. If we extend the civil engineering analogy, then that would mean fail safely.
Two trains derailed in the UK last week. Should we all abandon trains? No? Why do plane crashes happen? That’s the most safety conscious area for software and hardware.
Because failures happen. Everyone expects them. Bridges don’t last forever, they know they will fail after a specific time frame and so they design around that. Planes have triplicate systems everywhere. And yet, despite all this, failures still happen.
And the fact they know that bridges have specific failure modes and lifespans is the result of a long, long history of bridges failing.
- minraws 2mo agoIf trains were having fatal crashes every month I will and I think I speak for everyone of my friends in UK, they should stop using the train. Same with airplane, but often thats the only solution if cloudflare is your only solution in your engineering problem I would much rather you re-review and reframe that problem.
- orf 2mo agoThere is more than 1 fatal airplane crash per month, FYI. Same for trains. Same for cars as well for that matter. How do you propose we travel safely?
- minraws 2mo agoThere is more than 1 fatal airplane crash per month in UK? Where are your stats for this? Heck there isn't more than 1 commercial airplane crash in every few years globally. Trains might be higher but if UK is having 12+ crashes a month I think you should really re think things. But again data?
- orf 2mo agoWorldwide. I ask again: how do we travel given that cars, planes and trains are “not serious”? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aviation_accidents_and_incidents_in_2026 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aviation_accidents_an... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Railway_accidents_in_2026 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Railway_accidents_in_...