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Well in my mind is no one else cares and the EU is holier than pope. We are destroying our economy for promile of world polution and are even shamed for using A
by kvgr 2mo ago
Well in my mind is no one else cares and the EU is holier than pope. We are destroying our economy for promile of world polution and are even shamed for using AC.
- Hackbraten 2mo agoThis narrative is dangerous. If everyone points to their own limited influence and points fingers at the rest of the world, no one is going to act.
- kergonath 2mo agoIt’s the "it’s real, but we cannot do anything about it" rung on the climate denialist ladder. Yes, it is dangerous. It is also mainstream. There are several examples in this thread.
- kvgr 2mo agoWe are focusing on wrong things. Nuclear and off coal/gas should have been priority for last 50 years. And should be priority next 50. But Russian propaganda entrenched in spy infested austria and germany forces cheap gas upon us… and now we have to pay the price.
- kergonath 2mo ago> Nuclear and off coal/gas should have been priority for last 50 years. No argument from me. It would not have completely saved us but we’d be in a better position now. The absolute priority should be to avoid burning fossil fuels for energy. > But Russian propaganda entrenched in spy infested austria and germany forces cheap gas upon us Indeed. Germany’s energy policy was a huge risk and set Europe back. I am not sure whether Schröder was a useful idiot or a willing pawn, but the fact that there was no reckoning is very disappointing. And all of Merkel’s balancing act came to naught anyway. So much time wasted…
- Jensson 2mo agoEurope is already acting, its the rest of the world that isn't.
- throwawayqqq11 2mo agoGame theory gives all of us an optimal solution, so we all should care about every bit, no matter the global proportion. Btw. Chians per capital CO2 emission is lower than most of europe.
- kvgr 2mo agoYeah but earth is not heating up per capita. And all the developing world emissions are rising. We go to extreme to not even move the needle. Then china takes our factories, because we have expensive energy and stricter safety laws - i am not arguing against it. And europe is left economically decimated.
- deadbunny 2mo agoCould you provide a link to people being shamed for using AC?
- layer8 2mo agoIt’s becoming less, but the formerly widespread traditional view in Europe was that using AC is a frivolous waste of energy that contributes to environmental pollution and global warming.
- kergonath 2mo agoNo they cannot, it’s just a right-wing strawman. And something that perturbs some Americans, for some reason. Another "proof" that Europe is a terrible place inhabited by clueless idiots.
- kvgr 2mo agohttps://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2026/06/20/is-air-conditioning-essential-for-coping-with-heatwaves-france-might-be-changing-its-mind-on-the-issue_6754695_114.html?srsltid=AfmBOooRgZR0bX7KcS_V2W16mQElQiy6HXk0F93_9tXQPhLTFSHRW2VH https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2026/06/20/is-...
- kergonath 2mo agoI don’t know if you read beyond the paywall and you don’t present a single argument, so I struggle to see your point. The article has fuck all to do with actually getting shamed for buying AC. Regulations need to change with the climate, that’s a different discussion altogether. The whole point of the article is a nuanced discussion about pros and cons, and why we are where we are.