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This why I oppose national healthcare. I don’t want to pay for other people to get healthcare. I don’t want people to get higher wages for jobs in retail or r

by czgov 2mo ago

This why I oppose national healthcare. I don’t want to pay for other people to get healthcare. I don’t want people to get higher wages for jobs in retail or restaurants because I don’t want to pay more. I’m a greedy bastard.

andsoitis 2mo ago
> This why I oppose national healthcare. I don’t want to pay for other people to get healthcare. I don’t want people to get higher wages for jobs in retail or restaurants because I don’t want to pay more. I’m a greedy bastard. You're jumping to conclusions about my character. National healthcare is good! But narrowly targeting a specific economic activity, seemingly arbitrarily, when that same econsonomic acitivity also provides employment to the poorer segment of the population makes no sense!
- czgov 2mo ago
  Exactly. It’s why minimum wages are stupid. If a person is in dire straights let them be able to take a job for $1 an hour. Employment is the end that justifies the means. Notions like dignity, fairness, exploitation don’t belong in a capitalist society that is doing its best to become Ferenginar.
  - andsoitis 2mo ago
    > It’s why minimum wages are stupid Disagree. The spectrum of potential economic contribution by the population is too wide to give a humane life to everyone. So it is moral to provide a baseline because the unborn do not get to decide what body or family or life they get born into. > Notions like dignity, fairness, exploitation don’t belong in a capitalist society I think you misunderstand capitalism. One of the main moral premises that capitalism is built on is self-ownership and voluntary exchange. You are not the property of others. You can own things. Others can’t coerce you and vice versa.
    - czgov 2mo ago
      Nice of you to not give the full quote. … that is doing its best to become Ferenginar. I didn’t say these things don’t belong in a capitalist society. So it is moral to provide a baseline because… and voluntary exchange. Others can’t coerce you and vice versa. You can’t pay someone willing to work for $1 an hour but we believe in voluntary exchange and no one can coerce you.
amazingman 2mo ago
Poe's Law aside: This is why government exists and must exist.

by czgov 2mo ago

andsoitis 2mo ago

> This why I oppose national healthcare. I don’t want to pay for other people to get healthcare. I don’t want people to get higher wages for jobs in retail or restaurants because I don’t want to pay more. I’m a greedy bastard. You're jumping to conclusions about my character. National healthcare is good! But narrowly targeting a specific economic activity, seemingly arbitrarily, when that same econsonomic acitivity also provides employment to the poorer segment of the population makes no sense!

czgov 2mo ago
Exactly. It’s why minimum wages are stupid. If a person is in dire straights let them be able to take a job for $1 an hour. Employment is the end that justifies the means. Notions like dignity, fairness, exploitation don’t belong in a capitalist society that is doing its best to become Ferenginar.
- andsoitis 2mo ago
  > It’s why minimum wages are stupid Disagree. The spectrum of potential economic contribution by the population is too wide to give a humane life to everyone. So it is moral to provide a baseline because the unborn do not get to decide what body or family or life they get born into. > Notions like dignity, fairness, exploitation don’t belong in a capitalist society I think you misunderstand capitalism. One of the main moral premises that capitalism is built on is self-ownership and voluntary exchange. You are not the property of others. You can own things. Others can’t coerce you and vice versa.
  - czgov 2mo ago
    Nice of you to not give the full quote. … that is doing its best to become Ferenginar. I didn’t say these things don’t belong in a capitalist society. So it is moral to provide a baseline because… and voluntary exchange. Others can’t coerce you and vice versa. You can’t pay someone willing to work for $1 an hour but we believe in voluntary exchange and no one can coerce you.

amazingman 2mo ago

Poe's Law aside: This is why government exists and must exist.