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I've been using a lot of this in a developer preview for a while now, and the improvements over 3 are many, especially in the massively improved web inspector.

by bonaldi 18y ago

I've been using a lot of this in a developer preview for a while now, and the improvements over 3 are many, especially in the massively improved web inspector. The majority of the new things today are in the UI -- the tabs at the top, the top sites home screen -- and the majority of that is just Chrome done better. I'm surprised at how quickly they've aped Google, actually. Perhaps just to spite them for taking so goddamn long over Mac Chrome? To be honest, I'd rather they'd aped the process-per-tab thing more. Still missing: undo last tab close. Don't like the fixed "Add bookmark" button much, either.

sc 18y ago
The Web Inspector is actually part of WebKit itself (the rendering engine). You can get any improvements that happen there and between the chrome (HTML, CSS, JavaScript) by downloading WebKit nightlies: http://nightly.webkit.org http://nightly.webkit.org This update is for Safari itself, which is the UI/chrome.
- icefox 18y ago
  As it is part of WebKit it on Linux you can play with the inspector using Arora http://code.google.com/p/arora/wiki/Screenshots http://code.google.com/p/arora/wiki/Screenshots
sant0sk1 18y ago
I've been using the Web Inspector in WebKit nightlies for awhile now and it still doesn't measure up to FireBug. Even the simplest thing like changing CSS properties on the fly just don't work right in Web Inspector yet. I can't wait for it to catch up though so I can quit running 2 browsers simultaneously all the time!
- gruseom 18y ago
  I still like Firebug better too. Unfortunately its debugger has massive stability issues (at least on larger files). I can kind of get it to work if I talk really nicely to it. Not clear to me what the source of the problem really is, but the last few releases have been mostly bug fixes, and they seem to introduce as many bugs as they fix. That's a bad sign.
bretthoerner 18y ago
I don't see why they'd "spite" Google for taking long on Chrome. They don't want Chrome on the Mac... they get to charge Google for the searches that come through Safari.
peregrine 18y ago
Chrome is the best browser I've used yet. Firefox is nice but I'm a big fan of minimalism and chrome is minimal in most aspects.(Except Memory but I will sacrifice memory for sanity)
- Dobbs 18y ago
  I'll take a Vimperator over Chrome for minimalism at least as far as interface. It has all the Firefox issues with memory.
  - tdavis 18y ago
    I too am a big Vimperator fan. Plus, it forces practice of the number bar, something that I'm still not awesome at even after all these years.
  - peregrine 18y ago
    Firefox takes ages to load. All the plugins everyone loves so much are hogs of memory and just plain annoying. The only plugins worth a damn are adblock and greasemonkey, the rest Chrome already has. Also I cannot seem to grok vim/emacs.

by bonaldi 18y ago

sc 18y ago

The Web Inspector is actually part of WebKit itself (the rendering engine). You can get any improvements that happen there and between the chrome (HTML, CSS, JavaScript) by downloading WebKit nightlies: http://nightly.webkit.org http://nightly.webkit.org This update is for Safari itself, which is the UI/chrome.

icefox 18y ago
As it is part of WebKit it on Linux you can play with the inspector using Arora http://code.google.com/p/arora/wiki/Screenshots http://code.google.com/p/arora/wiki/Screenshots

sant0sk1 18y ago

I've been using the Web Inspector in WebKit nightlies for awhile now and it still doesn't measure up to FireBug. Even the simplest thing like changing CSS properties on the fly just don't work right in Web Inspector yet. I can't wait for it to catch up though so I can quit running 2 browsers simultaneously all the time!

gruseom 18y ago
I still like Firebug better too. Unfortunately its debugger has massive stability issues (at least on larger files). I can kind of get it to work if I talk really nicely to it. Not clear to me what the source of the problem really is, but the last few releases have been mostly bug fixes, and they seem to introduce as many bugs as they fix. That's a bad sign.

bretthoerner 18y ago

I don't see why they'd "spite" Google for taking long on Chrome. They don't want Chrome on the Mac... they get to charge Google for the searches that come through Safari.

peregrine 18y ago

Chrome is the best browser I've used yet. Firefox is nice but I'm a big fan of minimalism and chrome is minimal in most aspects.(Except Memory but I will sacrifice memory for sanity)

Dobbs 18y ago
I'll take a Vimperator over Chrome for minimalism at least as far as interface. It has all the Firefox issues with memory.
- tdavis 18y ago
  I too am a big Vimperator fan. Plus, it forces practice of the number bar, something that I'm still not awesome at even after all these years.
- peregrine 18y ago
  Firefox takes ages to load. All the plugins everyone loves so much are hogs of memory and just plain annoying. The only plugins worth a damn are adblock and greasemonkey, the rest Chrome already has. Also I cannot seem to grok vim/emacs.