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> Google ... had to ... destroy the APIs so that they're useless. I see this repeated over and over and yet uBlock Origin Lite still seems to block almost all

> Google ... had to ... destroy the APIs so that they're useless. I see this repeated over and over and yet uBlock Origin Lite still seems to block almost all ads. I'm not saying I wouldn't prefer the non-lite version. But, given I basically still don't see ads it's kind of hard to argue Google destroyed the APIs so that they're useless

what 2mo ago
There’s also ad blockers for iOS safari, which I’m pretty sure doesn’t support ublock. There’s nothing in manifest v2 that’s required for ad blocking.
- armadyl 2mo ago
  uBlock Origin Lite is available on iOS/iPadOS for Safari however last time I checked it’s inferior to AdGuard/Wipr due to the API it uses (it only works in Safari but doesn’t provide ad blocking in the web views like the other two do). Otherwise it’s equivalent with the desktop version.
  - what 2mo ago
    Okay. So there’s still nothing in manifest v2 that’s required for ad blocking?
    - armadyl 2mo ago
      Realistically with the new uBOL you’re just limited to the amount of rules you can use (I think it’s like 300k), no cosmetic filtering in default mode, no script injection in default mode, “limited dynamic filtering capabilities,” and needing more permissions up front. In practice to me these are non-issues. With MV2 uBO you basically already grant it maximum permissions since it’s all or nothing with MV2. So giving full permissions with MV3 uBOL is no different. Which eliminates the cosmetic filtering and script injection limitations. The rule limit can maybe be an issue, but I’ve never run into it unless I literally go hog wild and overboard on filter lists. “Limited dynamic filtering capabilities” is more abstract to me at least and I can’t say what’s missing here. In practice though ultimately I notice no difference between Lite and the original.
aucisson_masque 2mo ago
The crux of the difference is the webRequest API which is only available in Manifest v2. This allows uBlock to strip all tracking data from the requests themselves. So while Chrome w uBlock Lite is hiding almost all the same ads from you, it's not protecting you from tracking The Lite version also relies solely on filter lists that require you to update the extension itself while the MV2 version can do so dynamically. Additionally, it lacks CNAME Uncloaking which I imagine will become much more commonplace soon enough which will make it impossible to block those ads.
fsflover 2mo ago
> uBlock Origin Lite still seems to block almost all ads https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49305464 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49305464

what 2mo ago

There’s also ad blockers for iOS safari, which I’m pretty sure doesn’t support ublock. There’s nothing in manifest v2 that’s required for ad blocking.

armadyl 2mo ago
uBlock Origin Lite is available on iOS/iPadOS for Safari however last time I checked it’s inferior to AdGuard/Wipr due to the API it uses (it only works in Safari but doesn’t provide ad blocking in the web views like the other two do). Otherwise it’s equivalent with the desktop version.
- what 2mo ago
  Okay. So there’s still nothing in manifest v2 that’s required for ad blocking?
  - armadyl 2mo ago
    Realistically with the new uBOL you’re just limited to the amount of rules you can use (I think it’s like 300k), no cosmetic filtering in default mode, no script injection in default mode, “limited dynamic filtering capabilities,” and needing more permissions up front. In practice to me these are non-issues. With MV2 uBO you basically already grant it maximum permissions since it’s all or nothing with MV2. So giving full permissions with MV3 uBOL is no different. Which eliminates the cosmetic filtering and script injection limitations. The rule limit can maybe be an issue, but I’ve never run into it unless I literally go hog wild and overboard on filter lists. “Limited dynamic filtering capabilities” is more abstract to me at least and I can’t say what’s missing here. In practice though ultimately I notice no difference between Lite and the original.

aucisson_masque 2mo ago

The crux of the difference is the webRequest API which is only available in Manifest v2. This allows uBlock to strip all tracking data from the requests themselves. So while Chrome w uBlock Lite is hiding almost all the same ads from you, it's not protecting you from tracking The Lite version also relies solely on filter lists that require you to update the extension itself while the MV2 version can do so dynamically. Additionally, it lacks CNAME Uncloaking which I imagine will become much more commonplace soon enough which will make it impossible to block those ads.

fsflover 2mo ago

> uBlock Origin Lite still seems to block almost all ads https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49305464 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49305464