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They're still up $25B for the year, so it's hard to feel bad for them :-) On a more serious note, Jane Street has hired some very impressive technical talent.
by otterley 2mo ago
They're still up $25B for the year, so it's hard to feel bad for them :-)
On a more serious note, Jane Street has hired some very impressive technical talent. I'd work for them, myself, if I didn't have to relocate to Chicago.
- margalabargala 2mo ago[flagged]
- otterley 2mo agoKnock it off. These sorts of responses are uncalled for. Please review the HN Guidelines.
- margalabargala 2mo ago[flagged]
- otterley 2mo ago“Be kind. Don’t be snarky.” is literally the first guideline in the “on comments” section.
- margalabargala 2mo agoRight, and plenty of comments containing non-zero snark are fine. There's a line over which comments become unreasonable. If mine was over that line, so are a good 30% of HN comments. Seeing as those comments exist, I think your comment flagging criteria are what need to be adjusted here. Frankly I think you're just annoyed because the reaction to your comment was not "oh wow this guy could work for Jane Street if he wanted but he doesn't because he doesn't want to move cities. Wow so cool"
- otterley 2mo agoThe language is clear and unambiguous, and is intended to set a floor for the caliber and quality of discussion here. If 30% of comments here are equally bad, that means it’s not enforced as well as it could be. It doesn’t mean we’re intentionally lowering the standards. My intent when I made that statement was not how you interpreted it. Its people genuinely impress me. And besides, what if I could work for them? Wouldn’t you be happy for me? Why the sour grapes? As the Guidelines also state (paraphrasing): use the most charitable interpretation of a fellow member’s contributions.
- margalabargala 2mo agoWell, you certainly didn't use the "most charitable interpretation" of my comment, now did you? Why not assume that I too am as competent as you see yourself and simply also don't want to move to Chicago where Jane Street definitely is? It's a weak person who hides behind rules they don't themselves follow. Lots of companies manage to impress lots of incompetent, arrogant people. Your initial comment sounded like such a person and mothing you've said since has done anything to disabuse the reader of that. "The rules say you're not supposed to reply with sarcasm! Flagging your comment!" says the person that Jane Street would totally love to hire. Like I said, you're just annoyed someone is criticizing your arrogance. If you weren't being arrogant, then my initial reply is utterly unobjectionable; it's only unkind or sarcastic in response to the arrogant interpretation of your initial comment, and is inert to the "best possible" interpretation by the rules you don't follow but want others to.
- otterley 2mo agofacepalm Way to double down on being a dick, dude.
- margalabargala 2mo agoJust trying to help you have some self awareness... Calling me a dick seems to violate the kindness rule you are about so much. Don't the guidelines say you should not comment and move on?
- 0xbadcafebee 2mo agoNot all sarcasm is insulting, my dude
- otterley 2mo ago“Be kind. Don’t be snarky.” is literally the first guideline in the “on comments” section.
- 0xbadcafebee 2mo agoThere is a significant difference between sarcasm meant to insult, and sarcasm meant to be playful humor with a point. Common uses of sarcasm include witty or playful language, humorous banter, the expression of frustration at unfortunate events, self-deprecation, and as a coping mechanism for difficult situations. I see that you couldn't tell the difference in that situation, but trust me, that person was not insulting you. They included themselves in the joke.
- otterley 2mo agoThe language is clear and unambiguous, and is intended to set a floor for the caliber and quality of discussion here. I take your point, but the humor, if it was that, was made clumsily and was not well received. It’s not just me who felt that way; it was downvoted and eventually killed.
- 0xbadcafebee 2mo agoIs it though? Almost all the guidelines are curt and open to interpretation. For example, what counts as snarky? What counts as kind? Is there some hidden arbiter in between the characters I can't see? Not everyone will know exactly what these mean in every situation. In truth, the rules here are intentionally vague, so they can be used as a cudgel by people who don't like what they read. For the mods it's for behavioral control, and for the users it's for thought control. The mods want the website to be a financial tool for YC, and the users want all opinions to mirror their own. But HN is built awkwardly, and forces too many different kinds of users into one tiny space. So the mods do what they can to remove submissions and kill comments, to make the appearance of some kind of nerd chat gestalt. This thread is an example of that failed attempt at enforced harmony. You can't punish people into electing to behave the way you want, it just makes them angry.
- Lerc 2mo agoTheir nerd sniping is top notch. I almost accidentally applied for a job with them.
- jaggederest 2mo agoI regret not going through their application process 20 years ago, when I didn't know better. They did some kind of job fair thing and their starting salary was mindboggling, back when $600k/yr was "work there for 3 years and retire" kind of money.
- bmitc 2mo agoI don't think they even have a Chicago office, so it's good you didn't relocate there. They're based in New York. https://www.janestreet.com/culture/our-offices/ https://www.janestreet.com/culture/our-offices/
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- fancyfredbot 2mo agoElsewhere on their website: "Jane Street has offices in some of the world’s most dynamic cities, including a presence in Amsterdam, Chicago, Hong Kong, London, New York and Singapore." https://www.janestreet.com/culture/benefits/?office=nyc&view=grid https://www.janestreet.com/culture/benefits/?office=nyc&view... (scroll down)
- SanDiegoSun 2mo agoAlmost none of their ops is done there.
- bmitc 2mo agoThey list no jobs there.
- otterley 2mo agoMy mistake! I must have mixed up that location with another company I also admire.
- loeg 2mo ago> They're still up $25B for the year, so it's hard to feel bad for them :-) No, even better: they're still up $40B for the year.
- tombert 2mo agoI've applied to Jane Street dozens of times, interviewed twice, and have always been declined. Obviously I'm not entitled to a job, so no hard feelings on that, but it's a little sad because I have always been a big functional programming nerd and it would be fun to work with Ocaml libraries. The fact that they pay really well is also appealing...
- alberth 2mo ago$25B is less than people realize. They have $140B AUM. So they are up ~18%. https://observer.com/2024/11/jane-street-quantitative-trading/ https://observer.com/2024/11/jane-street-quantitative-tradin...
- f9ad2451 2mo agoThey're leveraged. $140B in assets is not the same thing as $140B in AUM. The article you posted claims AUM of closer to $27B in 2023; unless you think they made $113B in profit without anyone noticing in 2023, your number is certainly too high. Although, to that point, you're posting a number from 2024 - they've certainly grown since then.