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Do people not remember Firefox changing their terms of service last year and allowing them to sell your data to third parties? I don't get it did people forget?

Do people not remember Firefox changing their terms of service last year and allowing them to sell your data to third parties? I don't get it did people forget? I switched over to LibreWolf and other browsers like that then and never looked back.

inigyou 2mo ago
We all just either memory-holed it or convinced ourselves that it wasn't what it was. Easy to think you just misunderstood what they said, even though they were very explicit about it.
ethagnawl 2mo ago
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted; you're right. Firefox the browser is an amazingly capable tool but I wish it was shepherded by an org that prioritized its users' interests (privacy, performance, etc.) instead of ramming AI, crypto or cute marketing campaigns that NOBODY wants into its flagship offering.
- nickthegreek 2mo ago
  what crypto was rammed into firefox?
culi 2mo ago
They rewrote the terms almost immediately after the backlash. They also claimed the original terms were written in response to the overly broad legal definitions of "data sales" under laws like the CCPA. Which tbh sounds reasonable
- Madmallard 2mo ago
  proof?
  - culi 2mo ago
    https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+rewrites+their+terms+after+the+backlash https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+rewrites+their+terms...
    - Madmallard 2mo ago
      Yeah, nah. From your own google search: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/s/wo3T5ZB8ig https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/s/wo3T5ZB8ig https://youtu.be/-8bTquKjzos https://youtu.be/-8bTquKjzos
      - culi 2mo ago
        Lol I this is internet inception. You, someone who didn't read any of the articles, linked to a reddit post. The reddit post is of an article that is full of confused redditors who also didn't read the article. The article's very first sentence says: > After fielding user backlash over its new Terms of Use last week, Firefox browser maker Mozilla has rewritten its policy to address issues around the overly broad language it had previously used. The next two sentences: > Critics said the terms implied Mozilla was asking users for the rights to whatever data they input into the browser or upload, which some worried would be then sold to advertisers or AI companies. > Mozilla said that was not the case, noting that the new terms didn’t represent a change in the way the company used data. The company also said that the original language updates were not “driven by a desire” to sell user data, and that the company’s ability to use collected data was still limited by the rights laid out in Firefox’s Privacy Notice. Buddy, please save us both some time and actually read the articles...
        Madmallard 2mo ago
        The language is still ambiguous enough to cause issues. That's why Louis Rossman said just download Librewolf and be done with it.

inigyou 2mo ago

We all just either memory-holed it or convinced ourselves that it wasn't what it was. Easy to think you just misunderstood what they said, even though they were very explicit about it.

ethagnawl 2mo ago

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted; you're right. Firefox the browser is an amazingly capable tool but I wish it was shepherded by an org that prioritized its users' interests (privacy, performance, etc.) instead of ramming AI, crypto or cute marketing campaigns that NOBODY wants into its flagship offering.

nickthegreek 2mo ago
what crypto was rammed into firefox?

culi 2mo ago

They rewrote the terms almost immediately after the backlash. They also claimed the original terms were written in response to the overly broad legal definitions of "data sales" under laws like the CCPA. Which tbh sounds reasonable

Madmallard 2mo ago
proof?
- culi 2mo ago
  https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+rewrites+their+terms+after+the+backlash https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+rewrites+their+terms...
  - Madmallard 2mo ago
    Yeah, nah. From your own google search: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/s/wo3T5ZB8ig https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/s/wo3T5ZB8ig https://youtu.be/-8bTquKjzos https://youtu.be/-8bTquKjzos
    - culi 2mo ago
      Lol I this is internet inception. You, someone who didn't read any of the articles, linked to a reddit post. The reddit post is of an article that is full of confused redditors who also didn't read the article. The article's very first sentence says: > After fielding user backlash over its new Terms of Use last week, Firefox browser maker Mozilla has rewritten its policy to address issues around the overly broad language it had previously used. The next two sentences: > Critics said the terms implied Mozilla was asking users for the rights to whatever data they input into the browser or upload, which some worried would be then sold to advertisers or AI companies. > Mozilla said that was not the case, noting that the new terms didn’t represent a change in the way the company used data. The company also said that the original language updates were not “driven by a desire” to sell user data, and that the company’s ability to use collected data was still limited by the rights laid out in Firefox’s Privacy Notice. Buddy, please save us both some time and actually read the articles...
      - Madmallard 2mo ago
        The language is still ambiguous enough to cause issues. That's why Louis Rossman said just download Librewolf and be done with it.