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Why are you referring to rarity? "Ambling" refers to (RELATIVE) luck, not commonness.

lovich 2mo ago
Ambling refers to walking into a situation casually. If you think you can amble into being a billionaire in our environment then you’re conceding that capitalism as a system has broken down in the US because there’s no way to casually come into that much money in the presence of competition.
- JumpCrisscross 2mo ago
  > If you think you can amble into being a billionaire in our environment then you’re conceding that capitalism as a system has broken down Yes. I think you can be a good person and an early engineer at a start-up that gets acquired for billions when the team is still small.
  - lovich 2mo ago
    > I think you can be a good person and an early engineer at a start-up that gets acquired for billions when the team is still small. Can you name an engineer who was at a startup acquired for billions who themselves became a billionaire, and was not one of the founders? Because there is a, to me, large gap between someone ambling into being a billionaire vs being an employee at a company acquired for billions. And there’s an equally large gap between claiming someone is just an engineer vs one of the founders with controlling interests who are making the decisions for the company.
    - adastra22 2mo ago
      Dustin Moskovitz, Tom Mueller. You are right that these are incredibly rare, and pushing the boundary between founder and first employee.
      - lovich 2mo ago
        Moskovitz was literally a cofounder, that’s not pushing the boundary, it’s comfortably past it. I’ll give you Tom Mueller
        adastra22 2mo ago
        Fair, I think I let that ridiculous movie blur my memory of the events. But yeah, you pretty much got to be a first employee at a company that goes on to have a multi-hundred-billion IPO for the math to work. Not many of those out there.
        lovich 2mo ago
        We all can be manipulated. I realized after looking at my response that the “ that’s not pushing the boundary, it’s comfortably past it.” snippet of my statement made me sound like an llm
    - fragmede 2mo ago
      Steve Ballmer, Craig Silverstein, (Google employee #1), Tom Mueller, (SpaceX employee #1), though that's from IPO and not buyouts.
      - lovich 2mo ago
        Balmer was not an engineer. I agree with the other examples.

Ambling refers to walking into a situation casually. If you think you can amble into being a billionaire in our environment then you’re conceding that capitalism as a system has broken down in the US because there’s no way to casually come into that much money in the presence of competition.

JumpCrisscross 2mo ago
> If you think you can amble into being a billionaire in our environment then you’re conceding that capitalism as a system has broken down Yes. I think you can be a good person and an early engineer at a start-up that gets acquired for billions when the team is still small.
- lovich 2mo ago
  > I think you can be a good person and an early engineer at a start-up that gets acquired for billions when the team is still small. Can you name an engineer who was at a startup acquired for billions who themselves became a billionaire, and was not one of the founders? Because there is a, to me, large gap between someone ambling into being a billionaire vs being an employee at a company acquired for billions. And there’s an equally large gap between claiming someone is just an engineer vs one of the founders with controlling interests who are making the decisions for the company.
  - adastra22 2mo ago
    Dustin Moskovitz, Tom Mueller. You are right that these are incredibly rare, and pushing the boundary between founder and first employee.
    - lovich 2mo ago
      Moskovitz was literally a cofounder, that’s not pushing the boundary, it’s comfortably past it. I’ll give you Tom Mueller
      - adastra22 2mo ago
        Fair, I think I let that ridiculous movie blur my memory of the events. But yeah, you pretty much got to be a first employee at a company that goes on to have a multi-hundred-billion IPO for the math to work. Not many of those out there.
        lovich 2mo ago
        We all can be manipulated. I realized after looking at my response that the “ that’s not pushing the boundary, it’s comfortably past it.” snippet of my statement made me sound like an llm
  - fragmede 2mo ago
    Steve Ballmer, Craig Silverstein, (Google employee #1), Tom Mueller, (SpaceX employee #1), though that's from IPO and not buyouts.
    - lovich 2mo ago
      Balmer was not an engineer. I agree with the other examples.