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That is also true of a revolver, or a bolt, lever, or pump action gun. The point is that the above poster has no idea what he is talking about, and as such his

That is also true of a revolver, or a bolt, lever, or pump action gun. The point is that the above poster has no idea what he is talking about, and as such his opinion on the matter isn't as relevant as it would be if he actually educated himself on the subject.

dinkumthinkum 14y ago
No, it is not true of a revolver or a bolt, lever, or pump action rifle. I don't want to be mean about it but do you not know what you're talking about? You take a revolver and a box of ammo and I'll take an AR-15 and let's see who can fire more rounds. That's completely ridiculous.
- clarky07 14y ago
  Did you read the parent? >Within a minute, one can fire many, many rounds with only a few pounds of pressure. I didn't say it was faster than an AR. I know exactly what I'm talking about. A revolver could have accomplished the same thing at that school. Yes, this idiot shot some of these kids 11+ times and the revolver wouldn't have done that, but guess what, you don't need to shoot someone 11 times. 1-2 is generally plenty. There is something called a speedloader for revolvers, which is just slightly slower than a magazine to reload. This guy [1] while not really going too fast, reloaded three times and shot 24 well aimed bullets in 45 seconds (starting at the 1:15 mark). I'd say that qualifies as many many round in under a minute with only a few pounds of pressure. The second video [2], while obviously a world class shooter, shot 12 rounds, all on target, with a reload in the middle in less than 3 seconds. Now, are you going to claim that this somehow doesn't qualify as firing many rounds in under a minute? The parent was comparing automatic and semi automatic saying that don't matter. well, i'd agree and extend it to the guns i said, but if we want to go with your quote: >You take a revolver and a box of ammo and I'll take an AR-15 and let's see who can fire more rounds. That's completely ridiculous. I'll take a fully auto AR and some ammo, you take a semi auto AR-15 and let's see who can fire more rounds. That's completely ridiculous. [1] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9Lahi-TqQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9Lahi-TqQ [2] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tFQ1H4Awg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tFQ1H4Awg
  - bambax 14y ago
    Crazy people targeting kids are not, in general, «world class shooters», they are not world class anything except losers. That's the point. Those weapons help shooters that aren't good, shoot fast. We're not talking about SWAT teams here. Besides, gun control would include all guns, revolvers, sigle-action, you name it.
    - clarky07 14y ago
      The first video is decidedly not world class. also, no gun control in the US has talked about revolvers, bolt action, or lever action guns. Also, your comments around this whole thread have talked about how the semi-auto assault rifle was the problem and this couldn't be done with a revolver, but now that I point out it isn't in fact you say you want to get rid of revolvers too. Very handy.
      - bambax 14y ago
        > Also, your comments around this whole thread have talked about how the semi-auto assault rifle was the problem No. I said "all guns are bad" (and you replied to that comment). I advocate banning all guns...
        clarky07 14y ago
        No, your orignal comment - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4928127 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4928127 said that "only in the US do kids shoot other kids with automatic weapons" and "but can someone please explain why a school teacher would have three guns in her house, one of them a Glock semi-automatic pistol??" Nothing about that said all guns are bad, part of it was completely false referring to the automatic. There is absolutely nothing exciting about a ... gasp ... "GLOCK" semi-automatic pistol. Glock is just the name of a brand. You could also have a Ruger, or Smith and Wesson, or Kimber, or any number of other brands that make pretty much identical guns.
        bambax 14y ago

dinkumthinkum 14y ago

No, it is not true of a revolver or a bolt, lever, or pump action rifle. I don't want to be mean about it but do you not know what you're talking about? You take a revolver and a box of ammo and I'll take an AR-15 and let's see who can fire more rounds. That's completely ridiculous.

clarky07 14y ago
Did you read the parent? >Within a minute, one can fire many, many rounds with only a few pounds of pressure. I didn't say it was faster than an AR. I know exactly what I'm talking about. A revolver could have accomplished the same thing at that school. Yes, this idiot shot some of these kids 11+ times and the revolver wouldn't have done that, but guess what, you don't need to shoot someone 11 times. 1-2 is generally plenty. There is something called a speedloader for revolvers, which is just slightly slower than a magazine to reload. This guy [1] while not really going too fast, reloaded three times and shot 24 well aimed bullets in 45 seconds (starting at the 1:15 mark). I'd say that qualifies as many many round in under a minute with only a few pounds of pressure. The second video [2], while obviously a world class shooter, shot 12 rounds, all on target, with a reload in the middle in less than 3 seconds. Now, are you going to claim that this somehow doesn't qualify as firing many rounds in under a minute? The parent was comparing automatic and semi automatic saying that don't matter. well, i'd agree and extend it to the guns i said, but if we want to go with your quote: >You take a revolver and a box of ammo and I'll take an AR-15 and let's see who can fire more rounds. That's completely ridiculous. I'll take a fully auto AR and some ammo, you take a semi auto AR-15 and let's see who can fire more rounds. That's completely ridiculous. [1] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9Lahi-TqQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9Lahi-TqQ [2] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tFQ1H4Awg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tFQ1H4Awg
- bambax 14y ago
  Crazy people targeting kids are not, in general, «world class shooters», they are not world class anything except losers. That's the point. Those weapons help shooters that aren't good, shoot fast. We're not talking about SWAT teams here. Besides, gun control would include all guns, revolvers, sigle-action, you name it.
  - clarky07 14y ago
    The first video is decidedly not world class. also, no gun control in the US has talked about revolvers, bolt action, or lever action guns. Also, your comments around this whole thread have talked about how the semi-auto assault rifle was the problem and this couldn't be done with a revolver, but now that I point out it isn't in fact you say you want to get rid of revolvers too. Very handy.
    - bambax 14y ago
      > Also, your comments around this whole thread have talked about how the semi-auto assault rifle was the problem No. I said "all guns are bad" (and you replied to that comment). I advocate banning all guns...
      - clarky07 14y ago
        No, your orignal comment - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4928127 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4928127 said that "only in the US do kids shoot other kids with automatic weapons" and "but can someone please explain why a school teacher would have three guns in her house, one of them a Glock semi-automatic pistol??" Nothing about that said all guns are bad, part of it was completely false referring to the automatic. There is absolutely nothing exciting about a ... gasp ... "GLOCK" semi-automatic pistol. Glock is just the name of a brand. You could also have a Ruger, or Smith and Wesson, or Kimber, or any number of other brands that make pretty much identical guns.
        bambax 14y ago