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the pre vote discusions centered on " The Count Binface" getting more than 5% of the votes as bieng a sign of great discontent, 25% + suggests that politics a

the pre vote discusions centered on " The Count Binface" getting more than 5% of the votes as bieng a sign of great discontent, 25% + suggests that politics as it is, wont be for long.

bevekspldnw 2mo ago
The average tenure of leadership in the UK is reliably measured in produce and it’s gotten no better. Brexit needs to be reversed already.
- UpsideDownRide 2mo ago
  Brexit cannot be reversed if people dont get their act together. And that will take a good amount of time and effort.
  - bevekspldnw 2mo ago
    In the meantime…meet our next “PM of the month”!
  - nephihaha 2mo ago
    I voted Remain, and hoped the EU would get its house in order if the UK stayed in it. Unfortunately neither of these things happened. Both the EU and the UK have become increasingly authoritarian, including on internet matters.
- throw0101d 2mo ago
  > Brexit needs to be reversed already. Support for reversing Brexit / rejoining the EU is a bit mixed: > While 55% of Britons say they support the UK rejoining the EU, this falls to just 35% if the UK had to rejoin without its prior opt-outs, with 43% opposed * https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54925-what-do-britons-think-of-brexit-10-years-since-the-referendum https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54925-what-do-britons-thin... The UK had a pretty unique setup previously, and I'm not sure if the EU would really go along with it again.
  - owisd 2mo ago
    > I'm not sure if the EU would really go along with it again. Sounds like Project Fear to me! The EU needs Britain more than Britain needs them! The German car/French wine/etc. industry will beg the European Commission to give Britain all their opt-outs back to secure a rejoin!
    - throw0101d 2mo ago
      > 58% of French people and 63% of Germans support the UK rejoining the EU > However, 58-61% think the UK should have to participate in all major EU policies if it rejoined, like Schengen and the Euro > If it were only willing to rejoin with its old opt-outs, support for the UK rejoining falls to 36% in France and 39% in Germany * https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/55023-ten-years-after-the-eu-referendum-do-the-french-and-german-publics-want-the-uk-to-rejoin https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/55023-ten-years-after-the-...
  - Gander5739 2mo ago
    The Economist wrote a few articles on the topic, e.g. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/12/30/britain-and-the-eu-should-be-bolder-in-getting-closer https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/12/30/britain-and-the...
  - rsynnott 2mo ago
    Which is... quite weird, really, because the former opt-outs were mostly fairly minor. I assume they'd be allowed stay out of Schengen in practice; Ireland's not in it and they have an essentially un-closeable border with Ireland (this is, incidentally, the main reason Ireland's not in Schengen in the first place). And realistically the EU has shown no appetite for dragging countries who don't want it into the eurozone; see Poland.
    - throw0101d 2mo ago
      > Which is... quite weird, really, because the former opt-outs were mostly fairly minor. Schengen and the Euro were hardly minor: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_opt-outs_from_EU_legislation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_opt-outs_from_E... There were only four (now three) countries in the EU that got any opt-outs at all, and the UK the most opted-out items (4): * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union
NewJazz 2mo ago
All of the major parties except for Reform withdrew their candidates in protest of Farage.
- mcphage 2mo ago
  > All of the major parties except for Reform withdrew their candidates in protest of Farage. This doesn't make sense. If they wanted to protest Farage, wouldn't they be better off running a serious candidate against him?
  - choult 2mo ago
    Farage engineered this situation to try to take control of the narrative about the investigation into £5m of undeclared income/gifts. They neutered that move by not entering the contest in the first place. And Binface (with support of 32 other candidates) turned it into a humiliating exercise.
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  - NewJazz 2mo ago
    They plan to eject Farage from Parliament after their investigation concludes. Farage was trying to delay the investigation, or perhaps prove a point that his voters don't care.
  - xboxnolifes 2mo ago
    A "serious" by-election is what Farage wanted. You don't protest by playing along. You protest by doing your best to express how much of a farce it is. Farage can't say "The people want me more than your other serious candidates even after this controversy" if there are no serious candidates running.
    - mcphage 2mo ago
      I get that, but if this was actually a chance to beat him, wouldn’t that have been better?

the pre vote discusions centered on " The Count Binface" getting more than 5% of the votes as bieng a sign of great discontent, 25% + suggests that politics as it is, wont be for long.

bevekspldnw 2mo ago

The average tenure of leadership in the UK is reliably measured in produce and it’s gotten no better. Brexit needs to be reversed already.

UpsideDownRide 2mo ago
Brexit cannot be reversed if people dont get their act together. And that will take a good amount of time and effort.
- bevekspldnw 2mo ago
  In the meantime…meet our next “PM of the month”!
- nephihaha 2mo ago
  I voted Remain, and hoped the EU would get its house in order if the UK stayed in it. Unfortunately neither of these things happened. Both the EU and the UK have become increasingly authoritarian, including on internet matters.
throw0101d 2mo ago
> Brexit needs to be reversed already. Support for reversing Brexit / rejoining the EU is a bit mixed: > While 55% of Britons say they support the UK rejoining the EU, this falls to just 35% if the UK had to rejoin without its prior opt-outs, with 43% opposed * https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54925-what-do-britons-think-of-brexit-10-years-since-the-referendum https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54925-what-do-britons-thin... The UK had a pretty unique setup previously, and I'm not sure if the EU would really go along with it again.
- owisd 2mo ago
  > I'm not sure if the EU would really go along with it again. Sounds like Project Fear to me! The EU needs Britain more than Britain needs them! The German car/French wine/etc. industry will beg the European Commission to give Britain all their opt-outs back to secure a rejoin!
  - throw0101d 2mo ago
    > 58% of French people and 63% of Germans support the UK rejoining the EU > However, 58-61% think the UK should have to participate in all major EU policies if it rejoined, like Schengen and the Euro > If it were only willing to rejoin with its old opt-outs, support for the UK rejoining falls to 36% in France and 39% in Germany * https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/55023-ten-years-after-the-eu-referendum-do-the-french-and-german-publics-want-the-uk-to-rejoin https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/55023-ten-years-after-the-...
- Gander5739 2mo ago
  The Economist wrote a few articles on the topic, e.g. https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/12/30/britain-and-the-eu-should-be-bolder-in-getting-closer https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/12/30/britain-and-the...
- rsynnott 2mo ago
  Which is... quite weird, really, because the former opt-outs were mostly fairly minor. I assume they'd be allowed stay out of Schengen in practice; Ireland's not in it and they have an essentially un-closeable border with Ireland (this is, incidentally, the main reason Ireland's not in Schengen in the first place). And realistically the EU has shown no appetite for dragging countries who don't want it into the eurozone; see Poland.
  - throw0101d 2mo ago
    > Which is... quite weird, really, because the former opt-outs were mostly fairly minor. Schengen and the Euro were hardly minor: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_opt-outs_from_EU_legislation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_opt-outs_from_E... There were only four (now three) countries in the EU that got any opt-outs at all, and the UK the most opted-out items (4): * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union

NewJazz 2mo ago

All of the major parties except for Reform withdrew their candidates in protest of Farage.

mcphage 2mo ago
> All of the major parties except for Reform withdrew their candidates in protest of Farage. This doesn't make sense. If they wanted to protest Farage, wouldn't they be better off running a serious candidate against him?
- choult 2mo ago
  Farage engineered this situation to try to take control of the narrative about the investigation into £5m of undeclared income/gifts. They neutered that move by not entering the contest in the first place. And Binface (with support of 32 other candidates) turned it into a humiliating exercise.
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- NewJazz 2mo ago
  They plan to eject Farage from Parliament after their investigation concludes. Farage was trying to delay the investigation, or perhaps prove a point that his voters don't care.
- xboxnolifes 2mo ago
  A "serious" by-election is what Farage wanted. You don't protest by playing along. You protest by doing your best to express how much of a farce it is. Farage can't say "The people want me more than your other serious candidates even after this controversy" if there are no serious candidates running.
  - mcphage 2mo ago
    I get that, but if this was actually a chance to beat him, wouldn’t that have been better?