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This article is being downvote-brigaded HARD wherever it gets posted on the internet right now. Interesting.

by johnnyApplePRNG 2mo ago

dgellow 2mo ago
HN doesn’t have downvotes for posts…
- stronglikedan 2mo ago
  So HN isn't included in the "wherever it gets posted on the internet" since it's implied that "wherever" needs downvote capabilities. Doesn't make the sentence any less true - you just read too much into it.
- johnnyApplePRNG 2mo ago
  Right, we have flags. And this post has been flagged off the front page of HN even with 150 upvotes in less than 2 hours...
  - tavavex 2mo ago
    It doesn't appear flagged to me. Remember that HN downranks posts with certain ratios of comments to upvotes, or with a certain level of activity - I'm not sure exactly how it works - to prevent flamewars. Whether this is a good measure is up to debate, but all articles get the same treatment if they hit these thresholds.
john_strinlai 2mo ago
not here (no downvotes for posts on HN), and i dont think it's particularly interesting either. anti-ai posts get downvoted by pro-ai people/bots. pro-ai posts get downvoted by anti-ai people/bots. (i suspect one of these teams has more bots than the other, but that's just a guess). in any case, the world keeps spinning.
- customguy 2mo ago
  anti-ai-bots? people who dislike LLM et al use LLM to repeat what is public opinion anyway? like, where?
  - john_strinlai 2mo ago
    downvoting a post doesn't require an LLM. an old-fashioned bot can do it just fine. and there can be several motivations for it (e.g. downvoting a competition's posts, someone upset with how much pro-ai stuff there is on their favorite subreddit, etc.)
    - customguy 2mo ago
      Frankly, I need to apologise because I must have totally skipped the "i suspect one of these teams has more bots than the other". And agree that manual downvotes (or comments) are not always in good faith either (though I'd argue they're intrinsically still better than bot votes, but not as if you claimed differently :)

This article is being downvote-brigaded HARD wherever it gets posted on the internet right now. Interesting.

dgellow 2mo ago

HN doesn’t have downvotes for posts…

stronglikedan 2mo ago
So HN isn't included in the "wherever it gets posted on the internet" since it's implied that "wherever" needs downvote capabilities. Doesn't make the sentence any less true - you just read too much into it.
johnnyApplePRNG 2mo ago
Right, we have flags. And this post has been flagged off the front page of HN even with 150 upvotes in less than 2 hours...
- tavavex 2mo ago
  It doesn't appear flagged to me. Remember that HN downranks posts with certain ratios of comments to upvotes, or with a certain level of activity - I'm not sure exactly how it works - to prevent flamewars. Whether this is a good measure is up to debate, but all articles get the same treatment if they hit these thresholds.

john_strinlai 2mo ago

not here (no downvotes for posts on HN), and i dont think it's particularly interesting either. anti-ai posts get downvoted by pro-ai people/bots. pro-ai posts get downvoted by anti-ai people/bots. (i suspect one of these teams has more bots than the other, but that's just a guess). in any case, the world keeps spinning.

customguy 2mo ago
anti-ai-bots? people who dislike LLM et al use LLM to repeat what is public opinion anyway? like, where?
- john_strinlai 2mo ago
  downvoting a post doesn't require an LLM. an old-fashioned bot can do it just fine. and there can be several motivations for it (e.g. downvoting a competition's posts, someone upset with how much pro-ai stuff there is on their favorite subreddit, etc.)
  - customguy 2mo ago
    Frankly, I need to apologise because I must have totally skipped the "i suspect one of these teams has more bots than the other". And agree that manual downvotes (or comments) are not always in good faith either (though I'd argue they're intrinsically still better than bot votes, but not as if you claimed differently :)