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This reminds me the clickbail title and thumbnail on YouTube. One of my favorite channel apologized for it but explained that the difference compared to NOT doi

This reminds me the clickbail title and thumbnail on YouTube. One of my favorite channel apologized for it but explained that the difference compared to NOT doing this is phenomenal and they can't afford stopping.

ivanjermakov 2mo ago
Don't get me started on "like and subscribe".
- inigyou 2mo ago
  Sponsorblock can be configured to skip these.
olyjohn 2mo ago
If this is the only way to get people to watch your videos, maybe your channel sucks. But glad you are making money tricking people into wasting their time so you can get one more ad impression.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  So every channel sucks?
  - debugnik 2mo ago
    Sounds like you've let your feed fill with shitty channels, but no, not all channels do this. I mostly refuse to watch videos with those cringe clickbait thumbnails, and I've still got more stuff to watch that I've got time for. And it's mostly gaming and variety streamers, or music/animation artists; not serious stuff. Now, I'll grant you that these may not become as successful as the clickbaity ones. Then again, the latter channels might as well not exist to me and like-minded people. Just an hour ago I unfollowed a streamer precisely because he's been getting clickbaity. We've got to take some responsibility over the people we choose to watch.
    - LollipopYakuza 2mo ago
      But everyone ≠ you and a channel will be way more successful by using those shitty mechanism. tl;dr Don't Hate The Player, Hate The Game
      - debugnik 2mo ago
        I don't even know what you're trying to convey: I'm countering the perception that every channel does this. But it isn't true, they've simply allowed themselves to have a disgusting feed. The "players" can do whatever, I don't care, because I don't watch them; they barely even show up on my algorithmic feed anymore. No one has to watch them, they simply chose to and then pretend they didn't have a choice. I just want people to own it, these channels do clickbait because many people like it.
        LollipopYakuza 2mo ago
        My point is simply that you might have habits that made you filter out those channels, but the stats show that using clickbait thumbnails and titles has an impact that tremendously change the views. Youtube creators are spending sometimes 1/3 of the time of production of a video on the thumbnail, with a dozen of variations in A/B testing. They have to optimize because the basic user decides in the first 5 seconds if they will continue watching. And Youtube punishes content creator if they notice that those users don't stay more than those few seconds. I believe the vast majority of the creators (the "players") hate having to resort to those, but they just don't have a choice if they want it to be sustainable.
  - account42 2mo ago
    On YouTube, yes except for a rounding errors. The platform is optimized for suckyness.

ivanjermakov 2mo ago

Don't get me started on "like and subscribe".

inigyou 2mo ago
Sponsorblock can be configured to skip these.

olyjohn 2mo ago

If this is the only way to get people to watch your videos, maybe your channel sucks. But glad you are making money tricking people into wasting their time so you can get one more ad impression.

inigyou 2mo ago
So every channel sucks?
- debugnik 2mo ago
  Sounds like you've let your feed fill with shitty channels, but no, not all channels do this. I mostly refuse to watch videos with those cringe clickbait thumbnails, and I've still got more stuff to watch that I've got time for. And it's mostly gaming and variety streamers, or music/animation artists; not serious stuff. Now, I'll grant you that these may not become as successful as the clickbaity ones. Then again, the latter channels might as well not exist to me and like-minded people. Just an hour ago I unfollowed a streamer precisely because he's been getting clickbaity. We've got to take some responsibility over the people we choose to watch.
  - LollipopYakuza 2mo ago
    But everyone ≠ you and a channel will be way more successful by using those shitty mechanism. tl;dr Don't Hate The Player, Hate The Game
    - debugnik 2mo ago
      I don't even know what you're trying to convey: I'm countering the perception that every channel does this. But it isn't true, they've simply allowed themselves to have a disgusting feed. The "players" can do whatever, I don't care, because I don't watch them; they barely even show up on my algorithmic feed anymore. No one has to watch them, they simply chose to and then pretend they didn't have a choice. I just want people to own it, these channels do clickbait because many people like it.
      - LollipopYakuza 2mo ago
        My point is simply that you might have habits that made you filter out those channels, but the stats show that using clickbait thumbnails and titles has an impact that tremendously change the views. Youtube creators are spending sometimes 1/3 of the time of production of a video on the thumbnail, with a dozen of variations in A/B testing. They have to optimize because the basic user decides in the first 5 seconds if they will continue watching. And Youtube punishes content creator if they notice that those users don't stay more than those few seconds. I believe the vast majority of the creators (the "players") hate having to resort to those, but they just don't have a choice if they want it to be sustainable.
- account42 2mo ago
  On YouTube, yes except for a rounding errors. The platform is optimized for suckyness.