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Does in/out mean in the tray or out of the bag?

Insanity 2mo ago
Easy fix: - Laptop: In Tray / In bag - Shoes: Wear / Remove I’m sure we can come up with clear wording for such a sign lol.
- euroderf 2mo ago
  In polyglot Europe, all this stuff should be in pictograms... but isn't.
  - seb1204 2mo ago
    Reading here the x-ray machine model or type might be a true technical reason why there are seemingly always different rules. Even same airport, different terminal canbe different due to different build year and machines. What I don't understand is why people simply don't pay attention? By the time it's my turn I have seen the 3-10 people in front of me go through the motions, so I naturally preempt and prepare based on what I have observed. Not a guarantee for no issues but a solid step to not mess up completely.
- jonhohle 2mo ago
  - Belt/Watch: leave in unless it has enough metal to trip the metal detector, then take off but we’ll yell at you for holding up the line/losing your pants. Also: here’s a list of things we are constitutionally not allowed to require, but if you choose to opt out you have a random 1:1 chance of being selected for an invasive “enhanced” screening. Also: here’s where you can pay your bribe^H^H^H^H*Hfee to be prescreened so the whole process is easier for you unless we decide we you should be on the list that we randomly select for “enhanced” screening. Then your children get to watch a large man put his hands all over your body in ways that they’ve been told to never let a stranger touch you. And if you speak up, we’ll do it you your minor children too.
DaSHacka 2mo ago
In/out of the bag, all items have to be in a tray (at least, in every airport I've flown in
- physicalecon 2mo ago
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Jtsummers 2mo ago
Usually airports use signs with both graphics and text for this. Removes the ambiguity unless you mistake the image of a bag for the tray and vice versa. Which leaves me confused with GP's suggestion. Every TSA line I've been in already has these signs. Are airports in other countries worse about their signage than TSA?
- Symbiote 2mo ago
  There isn't a standard design for the signs, so each country designs their own. (If they exist.)
- ortusdux 2mo ago
  There was zero signage at the last few American airports I flew through. Four airports in 2 weeks and they all had different rules, and felt the need to yell at you for not knowing their nuances.
  - ryandrake 2mo ago
    To me, it's not even about having different rules (which itself is stupid). It's the constant annoyed yelling. Like, can you at least pretend you don't hate yourself, the general public, and your job, for the duration of your shift? If I worked retail and treated customers like the TSA treats passengers, I'd be fired the first day.
- nucleardog 2mo ago
  My personal experience would strongly disagree with "usually" here. While I can't really be sure I've never seen one, none come to mind on my travels across US/Canada/Mexico/East Asia (though I've really only been within Canada the last couple of years). I also go through the trusted traveler line, and the rules there are _usually_ different (but not always!) and I definitely don't recall seeing any sign specifically addressing the rules for that line at any point. Except maybe one at the start clarifying _who_ can use the line (though on that one I've also had the TSA agents go ahead and explain the rules entirely different than the sign they were standing in front of so...).
seb1204 2mo ago
Yes, mam.

Easy fix: - Laptop: In Tray / In bag - Shoes: Wear / Remove I’m sure we can come up with clear wording for such a sign lol.

euroderf 2mo ago
In polyglot Europe, all this stuff should be in pictograms... but isn't.
- seb1204 2mo ago
  Reading here the x-ray machine model or type might be a true technical reason why there are seemingly always different rules. Even same airport, different terminal canbe different due to different build year and machines. What I don't understand is why people simply don't pay attention? By the time it's my turn I have seen the 3-10 people in front of me go through the motions, so I naturally preempt and prepare based on what I have observed. Not a guarantee for no issues but a solid step to not mess up completely.
jonhohle 2mo ago
- Belt/Watch: leave in unless it has enough metal to trip the metal detector, then take off but we’ll yell at you for holding up the line/losing your pants. Also: here’s a list of things we are constitutionally not allowed to require, but if you choose to opt out you have a random 1:1 chance of being selected for an invasive “enhanced” screening. Also: here’s where you can pay your bribe^H^H^H^H*Hfee to be prescreened so the whole process is easier for you unless we decide we you should be on the list that we randomly select for “enhanced” screening. Then your children get to watch a large man put his hands all over your body in ways that they’ve been told to never let a stranger touch you. And if you speak up, we’ll do it you your minor children too.

DaSHacka 2mo ago

In/out of the bag, all items have to be in a tray (at least, in every airport I've flown in

physicalecon 2mo ago
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Jtsummers 2mo ago

Usually airports use signs with both graphics and text for this. Removes the ambiguity unless you mistake the image of a bag for the tray and vice versa. Which leaves me confused with GP's suggestion. Every TSA line I've been in already has these signs. Are airports in other countries worse about their signage than TSA?

Symbiote 2mo ago
There isn't a standard design for the signs, so each country designs their own. (If they exist.)
ortusdux 2mo ago
There was zero signage at the last few American airports I flew through. Four airports in 2 weeks and they all had different rules, and felt the need to yell at you for not knowing their nuances.
- ryandrake 2mo ago
  To me, it's not even about having different rules (which itself is stupid). It's the constant annoyed yelling. Like, can you at least pretend you don't hate yourself, the general public, and your job, for the duration of your shift? If I worked retail and treated customers like the TSA treats passengers, I'd be fired the first day.
nucleardog 2mo ago
My personal experience would strongly disagree with "usually" here. While I can't really be sure I've never seen one, none come to mind on my travels across US/Canada/Mexico/East Asia (though I've really only been within Canada the last couple of years). I also go through the trusted traveler line, and the rules there are _usually_ different (but not always!) and I definitely don't recall seeing any sign specifically addressing the rules for that line at any point. Except maybe one at the start clarifying _who_ can use the line (though on that one I've also had the TSA agents go ahead and explain the rules entirely different than the sign they were standing in front of so...).

seb1204 2mo ago

Yes, mam.