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As much as I’m trying to understand what’s groundbreaking here, and I’m really trying to appreciate it, the prose style of the article makes it completely impen

As much as I’m trying to understand what’s groundbreaking here, and I’m really trying to appreciate it, the prose style of the article makes it completely impenetrable. I’m trying to understand what makes Solid 2.0 special, but I’m coming up completely empty, because it feels like I’m just reading noise.

brenelz2 2mo ago
I wrote an article on this. Maybe it helps? https://www.brenelz.com/posts/innovations-of-solid-2/ https://www.brenelz.com/posts/innovations-of-solid-2/
ryansolid 2mo ago
The challenge with this is we released too much at once. I really had a hard time with this announcement because I couldn't fit a full tour in less than a 6 article series. So how do I summarize? I picked up on the async headlines and the infrastructure pieces. We talked a lot more about the new reactivity in the beta release. The plan from here as indicated in the article is a series of followups explaining parts of Solid 2.0 in more detail. The key takeaways are: 1. We've solved declarative async, race conditions/complexity are reduced by the structure of your code. 2. We've collapsed the metaframework layer. Every Solid project out of the box is as capable as a metaframework based on the features you want to use. You can just start a simple client app and go from there. The result is we are setting the stage that both Humans and AI can do things a single way and fall into the "Pit of Success" by the shape of the solution and the guarantees of the model.
- terabytest 2mo ago
  For what it's worth, I would love to read the earlier drafts before the AI workshopped them.
  - ryansolid 2mo ago
    I'm not sure you would, but I actually did this exercise a bit on stream after my last article. To try to show people what I was talking about. I actually ahve a really good example of this on some unreleased stuff that I can't talk about because its too future facing. After I write the final article I will share the other 2 versions.
- dbbk 2mo ago
  If you made the framework you should be able to write the post explaining it, sorry
  - ryansolid 2mo ago
    I did write the post. This is better.
  - tregoning 2mo ago
    Why? Those are completely different skillsets
  - deleted 2mo ago
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jdkoeck 2mo ago
I love solid, but this article is very obviously AI-written. I too find it impenetrable.

brenelz2 2mo ago

I wrote an article on this. Maybe it helps? https://www.brenelz.com/posts/innovations-of-solid-2/ https://www.brenelz.com/posts/innovations-of-solid-2/

ryansolid 2mo ago

The challenge with this is we released too much at once. I really had a hard time with this announcement because I couldn't fit a full tour in less than a 6 article series. So how do I summarize? I picked up on the async headlines and the infrastructure pieces. We talked a lot more about the new reactivity in the beta release. The plan from here as indicated in the article is a series of followups explaining parts of Solid 2.0 in more detail. The key takeaways are: 1. We've solved declarative async, race conditions/complexity are reduced by the structure of your code. 2. We've collapsed the metaframework layer. Every Solid project out of the box is as capable as a metaframework based on the features you want to use. You can just start a simple client app and go from there. The result is we are setting the stage that both Humans and AI can do things a single way and fall into the "Pit of Success" by the shape of the solution and the guarantees of the model.

terabytest 2mo ago
For what it's worth, I would love to read the earlier drafts before the AI workshopped them.
- ryansolid 2mo ago
  I'm not sure you would, but I actually did this exercise a bit on stream after my last article. To try to show people what I was talking about. I actually ahve a really good example of this on some unreleased stuff that I can't talk about because its too future facing. After I write the final article I will share the other 2 versions.
dbbk 2mo ago
If you made the framework you should be able to write the post explaining it, sorry
- ryansolid 2mo ago
  I did write the post. This is better.
- tregoning 2mo ago
  Why? Those are completely different skillsets
- deleted 2mo ago
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jdkoeck 2mo ago

I love solid, but this article is very obviously AI-written. I too find it impenetrable.