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Older people (seen it at 65+) will just click the nag without knowing what the button does and end up beaming up all photos to google cloud with no ability to d

by dt3ft 2mo ago

Older people (seen it at 65+) will just click the nag without knowing what the button does and end up beaming up all photos to google cloud with no ability to disable the nag (it keeps showing up after a while) even when dismissed. If you are concerned about your data privacy, you may want to check on what photos of say your kids your parents are beaming up to google without their or your knowledge.

nom 2mo ago
It is worse than that. It fills up your accounts cloud storage, where your Google docs, sheets, drive files etc are stored. Once full you are caught in their trap: pay a monthly fee to the mafia or delete your data! This flow is intentional and they have set up everything to bring you there. The Photo-Backup popup (and arguably the whole photo feature) helps to shovel users more quickly to the end of the monetization funnel.
- 0sdi 2mo ago
  storing important files with google is risky business anyway. you could lose them for any other stupid reason, and im sure there is nothing you can do but blame yourself for trusting them.
- globular-toast 2mo ago
  Gmail uses the same storage space for a few years now. Fill it up and you can't receive emails any more.
  - whynou2f 2mo ago
    Even without Photos plenty of users complain in Gmail forums and subreddits - wtf gmail is full At some point people should take self responsibility for their accounts.
- whynou2f 2mo ago
  Eventually all those valuable pics they take will be lost if GP is disabled and phone is lost or screen damaged. And someone will complain - you can't even have sensible defaults. I understand you perhaps have hatred for google but hosting immich or ente is not for everyone. It is far easier for average Jose to pay for GP or some cloud. Unless you plan to setup at least some free cloud don't bother to lecture others
  - tdeck 2mo ago
    I've said "no" to this popup at least 100 times. Under what notion of obtaining consent would it be considered acceptable to ask me again the 101st time?
    - whynou2f 2mo ago
      I said no once. Never it asked. My guess is this happens to overzealous privacy people that often clean cache etc. If you are that ana l then why not press and hold app. Disable. Or even leave Google and install something like lineageOS
      - tdeck 2mo ago
        I've never once cleared the cache on this app, and you can trivially find hundreds of other people complaining about this same behavior. Why make such an assumption and write it in such an insulting style?
  - gertop 2mo ago
    I hate Google and their dark patterns as much as the next guy but I agree: Having the pop-up once or twice or even three times is reasonable. A lot of people value the backup more than their privacy. But after saying no three times, it really ought to leave the user alone...
    - MrMember 2mo ago
      It's a ubiquitous dark pattern. Instead of having a "Yes" or "No" option it's now "Yes" or "Ask Me Later."
- JimDabell 2mo ago
  It’s even worse than that! There is no delete all feature! So if you have 100k photos and make the mistake of saying yes to Google Photos just once, it will fill up all your storage space, block your email until you pay for extra storage, then force you to delete all your photos manually, one page at a time, before you can stop using it. I think that trap is the sleaziest thing I’ve seen Google do.
  - bigbuppo 2mo ago
    Mobster tactics from google. Nice. Just remember that Google always kills its products, and they are an advertising company. I'm joking, I hope, but Google ain't what it used to be.
    - BLKNSLVR 2mo ago
      Which part was meant to be a joke?
      - animuchan 2mo ago
        I guess the hopeful one, "Google always kills its products", suggesting that the bad product in this thread is also doomed. I hold this same hope, almost entirely unironically, about so many things.
  - Walf 2mo ago
    Careful, don't cloud deletions sync, i.e. remove the previously offline-only files from your devices?
  - dwedge 2mo ago
    This was even more annoying when they started including whatsapp backups in your quota and sent a load of people over quota. And as far as I know there's no alternative for whatsapp backups apart from plugging in a USB cable and hoping Whatsapp don't change the method between now and when you need to restore it
    - 2mo ago
- gsky 2mo ago
  This is true. it happened to a lot of people that i know
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BLKNSLVR 2mo ago
I like this example of brigading

by dt3ft 2mo ago

nom 2mo ago

It is worse than that. It fills up your accounts cloud storage, where your Google docs, sheets, drive files etc are stored. Once full you are caught in their trap: pay a monthly fee to the mafia or delete your data! This flow is intentional and they have set up everything to bring you there. The Photo-Backup popup (and arguably the whole photo feature) helps to shovel users more quickly to the end of the monetization funnel.

0sdi 2mo ago
storing important files with google is risky business anyway. you could lose them for any other stupid reason, and im sure there is nothing you can do but blame yourself for trusting them.
globular-toast 2mo ago
Gmail uses the same storage space for a few years now. Fill it up and you can't receive emails any more.
- whynou2f 2mo ago
  Even without Photos plenty of users complain in Gmail forums and subreddits - wtf gmail is full At some point people should take self responsibility for their accounts.
whynou2f 2mo ago
Eventually all those valuable pics they take will be lost if GP is disabled and phone is lost or screen damaged. And someone will complain - you can't even have sensible defaults. I understand you perhaps have hatred for google but hosting immich or ente is not for everyone. It is far easier for average Jose to pay for GP or some cloud. Unless you plan to setup at least some free cloud don't bother to lecture others
- tdeck 2mo ago
  I've said "no" to this popup at least 100 times. Under what notion of obtaining consent would it be considered acceptable to ask me again the 101st time?
  - whynou2f 2mo ago
    I said no once. Never it asked. My guess is this happens to overzealous privacy people that often clean cache etc. If you are that ana l then why not press and hold app. Disable. Or even leave Google and install something like lineageOS
    - tdeck 2mo ago
      I've never once cleared the cache on this app, and you can trivially find hundreds of other people complaining about this same behavior. Why make such an assumption and write it in such an insulting style?
- gertop 2mo ago
  I hate Google and their dark patterns as much as the next guy but I agree: Having the pop-up once or twice or even three times is reasonable. A lot of people value the backup more than their privacy. But after saying no three times, it really ought to leave the user alone...
  - MrMember 2mo ago
    It's a ubiquitous dark pattern. Instead of having a "Yes" or "No" option it's now "Yes" or "Ask Me Later."
JimDabell 2mo ago
It’s even worse than that! There is no delete all feature! So if you have 100k photos and make the mistake of saying yes to Google Photos just once, it will fill up all your storage space, block your email until you pay for extra storage, then force you to delete all your photos manually, one page at a time, before you can stop using it. I think that trap is the sleaziest thing I’ve seen Google do.
- bigbuppo 2mo ago
  Mobster tactics from google. Nice. Just remember that Google always kills its products, and they are an advertising company. I'm joking, I hope, but Google ain't what it used to be.
  - BLKNSLVR 2mo ago
    Which part was meant to be a joke?
    - animuchan 2mo ago
      I guess the hopeful one, "Google always kills its products", suggesting that the bad product in this thread is also doomed. I hold this same hope, almost entirely unironically, about so many things.
- Walf 2mo ago
  Careful, don't cloud deletions sync, i.e. remove the previously offline-only files from your devices?
- dwedge 2mo ago
  This was even more annoying when they started including whatsapp backups in your quota and sent a load of people over quota. And as far as I know there's no alternative for whatsapp backups apart from plugging in a USB cable and hoping Whatsapp don't change the method between now and when you need to restore it
  - 2mo ago
gsky 2mo ago
This is true. it happened to a lot of people that i know

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BLKNSLVR 2mo ago

I like this example of brigading