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> What is the actual concern with McDonalds having this data about you? I have no idea if it’s realistic, but I could see people being reasonably concerned abo

> What is the actual concern with McDonalds having this data about you? I have no idea if it’s realistic, but I could see people being reasonably concerned about insurance companies, etc. making actuarial decisions based on a partial understanding of your dietary habits.

teiferer 2mo ago
And talking about that would make people concerned. But instead the article lifts that McD knows your favorite drink is a large diet coke and you probably spend $25 there at your next visit because .. well you usually do. If that's what you bring up then no, nobody is going to be concerned. One could almost think McD has sponsored that "investigative" piece to calm people down. As in: if that's the strongest criticism you can find, well, then it'll all not so bad after all.
enoint 2mo ago
What is the value of this dossier to inform insurance decisions? Why would McDonalds leave that money on the table?
lifeisstillgood 2mo ago
But then that’s not McDonald’s using their data but selling it onwards for others to aggregate and use. That’s the underlying fear and issue - and quite right. Over the next decades we are going to gather and analyse soooo much data, and society will be dystopia or utopia based on what we let commercial entities and governments do with our data. Not prevent them from collecting it because then all the good stuff cannot happen (epidemiology is going to rock in 2035) but preventing the bad usage. I think a simple set of medical-like privacy laws (collect it, keep it locked down tight, use in the best interests of the citizen, do not sell onwards but share with licensed data brokers, introduce some cottage industry of data lawyers who can recover damages from dodgy data brokers) That probably will be enough but interested in others views
- lifeisstillgood 2mo ago
  Probably the most important single privacy point is in my first sentence - I said “their (McDonald’s) data about you.” Of course it should be your data. Data that exists or is collected by your action or lack of action, or delay of action or plain existence should belong to you. And selling it off for free email should be … hmmm discouraged. Require a paper and wet ink sign off? Something The actual drafting of these laws is … we need a GPL for privacy
  - cortesoft 2mo ago
    > Data that exists or is collected by your action or lack of action, or delay of action or plain existence should belong to you. This seems a bit over the top? If you and I interact, I am not allowed to remember anything about our interaction at all, because that is 'your data'? That is ridiculous. You don't get to tell me I can't remember information about what you do. If you come into my restaurant and then dine-and-dash, I am not allowed to put up a picture of you saying "Don't serve this guy" because it is 'your data'?
shepherdjerred 2mo ago
Why shouldn’t a company be able to make decisions related to your health with data about your health?

teiferer 2mo ago

And talking about that would make people concerned. But instead the article lifts that McD knows your favorite drink is a large diet coke and you probably spend $25 there at your next visit because .. well you usually do. If that's what you bring up then no, nobody is going to be concerned. One could almost think McD has sponsored that "investigative" piece to calm people down. As in: if that's the strongest criticism you can find, well, then it'll all not so bad after all.

enoint 2mo ago

What is the value of this dossier to inform insurance decisions? Why would McDonalds leave that money on the table?

lifeisstillgood 2mo ago

But then that’s not McDonald’s using their data but selling it onwards for others to aggregate and use. That’s the underlying fear and issue - and quite right. Over the next decades we are going to gather and analyse soooo much data, and society will be dystopia or utopia based on what we let commercial entities and governments do with our data. Not prevent them from collecting it because then all the good stuff cannot happen (epidemiology is going to rock in 2035) but preventing the bad usage. I think a simple set of medical-like privacy laws (collect it, keep it locked down tight, use in the best interests of the citizen, do not sell onwards but share with licensed data brokers, introduce some cottage industry of data lawyers who can recover damages from dodgy data brokers) That probably will be enough but interested in others views

lifeisstillgood 2mo ago
Probably the most important single privacy point is in my first sentence - I said “their (McDonald’s) data about you.” Of course it should be your data. Data that exists or is collected by your action or lack of action, or delay of action or plain existence should belong to you. And selling it off for free email should be … hmmm discouraged. Require a paper and wet ink sign off? Something The actual drafting of these laws is … we need a GPL for privacy
- cortesoft 2mo ago
  > Data that exists or is collected by your action or lack of action, or delay of action or plain existence should belong to you. This seems a bit over the top? If you and I interact, I am not allowed to remember anything about our interaction at all, because that is 'your data'? That is ridiculous. You don't get to tell me I can't remember information about what you do. If you come into my restaurant and then dine-and-dash, I am not allowed to put up a picture of you saying "Don't serve this guy" because it is 'your data'?

shepherdjerred 2mo ago

Why shouldn’t a company be able to make decisions related to your health with data about your health?