There's this very annoying thing where meditation experts try to dumb it down until they're basically describing a state of not thinking about stuff, and then s

There's this very annoying thing where meditation experts try to dumb it down until they're basically describing a state of not thinking about stuff, and then someone else goes "oh cool yeah I don't think about stuff when I run", and the experts immediately go "but not like that!" I wish that meditation experts would either dumb things down better or not try at all.