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They ship with their own sandboxing by default, and Codex specifically is open source.

badcafe23423435 2mo ago
if it is open source why no exist any fork? why I can remove openai model default from instalation?
rawland 2mo ago
I’d wait. Remember when Chromium downloaded and installed binary blobs. Also in the news: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/expanding-capabilities-to-combat-transnational-cyber-enabled-crime/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/expa... "The American private sector is the most innovative and technologically advanced in the world, and its scale, speed, and capacity secure a critical offensive cyber advantage for the United States."
wahnfrieden 2mo ago
This app is NOT open source
embedding-shape 2mo ago
> and Codex specifically is open source. Since we now have three "Codex"es, I think it's worth specifying you're talking about codex-cli/tui. Codex the hosted version and Codex the GUI are both fully proprietary I think (besides the codex-cli/tui parts they use, I'm guessing mainly the app-server stuff).
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avazhi 2mo ago
Is this the same thing that broke out of the sandbox and into HuggingFace? Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was. Either way, this shit isn’t getting near my system.
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- perching_aix 2mo ago
  > Is this the same thing that broke out of the sandbox and into HuggingFace? No. > Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was. It wasn't. > Either way, this shit isn’t getting near my system. Sounds about right.
  - avazhi 2mo ago
    > > Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was. > It wasn't. Prove it. But you can’t, which is problematic for you. Nobody should believe anything OpenAI says about anything. They either lied about it breaking out of a sand box, or they’re incompetent by building a sandbox their AI could break out of. It’s a cute story, though.
    - perching_aix 2mo ago
      > Prove it. But you can’t, which is problematic for you. More honestly: "Convince me. Except I've already made up my mind, so I'll never let you." And like yeah, that does seem to be the case, so that's a bit rough indeed. That said, if you feel like being a bit intellectually daring tonight, here you go: https://youtu.be/87DyyMV0kCY https://youtu.be/87DyyMV0kCY > Nobody should believe anything OpenAI says about anything. It's a great thing you bring up beliefs: it's the only thing people ever have, both you and me. Personally, after hearing their account (linked above), I don't find much to disbelieve on it. It's just a series of "oh okay, that's fun, makes sense" moments. It's normal stuff. They're definitely at least a little proud of having popped a few shops, but that's very realistic in its own way. I guess your best next option is waiting for a lawsuit to reach discovery or something, and then it's a matter of how dedicated you are to your disbelief. This indeed hasn't happened yet though, if it ever will, so nothing for me to provide (nor for you). Speaking of, note that I don't have any more reason to believe the likes of you than I do OpenAI. Especially because it all just comes across as trite cynicism, mixed with generous amounts of wishful thinking. I also happen to be simply using these things, so that further plays into why I don't find these events particularly miraculous. It's already existing capability for the most part, so why would I? The only difference is disabled guardrails and better temporal coherence, which is exactly what you'd expect from upcoming models still in eval. > or they’re incompetent by building a sandbox their AI could break out of. One could definitely make the argument that someone was at least a little asleep at the wheel, but I don't think that makes them particularly incompetent. Just the normal variety you'll find anywhere else.

if it is open source why no exist any fork? why I can remove openai model default from instalation?

I’d wait. Remember when Chromium downloaded and installed binary blobs. Also in the news: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/expanding-capabilities-to-combat-transnational-cyber-enabled-crime/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/expa... "The American private sector is the most innovative and technologically advanced in the world, and its scale, speed, and capacity secure a critical offensive cyber advantage for the United States."

wahnfrieden 2mo ago

This app is NOT open source

embedding-shape 2mo ago

> and Codex specifically is open source. Since we now have three "Codex"es, I think it's worth specifying you're talking about codex-cli/tui. Codex the hosted version and Codex the GUI are both fully proprietary I think (besides the codex-cli/tui parts they use, I'm guessing mainly the app-server stuff).

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avazhi 2mo ago

Is this the same thing that broke out of the sandbox and into HuggingFace? Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was. Either way, this shit isn’t getting near my system.

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perching_aix 2mo ago
> Is this the same thing that broke out of the sandbox and into HuggingFace? No. > Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was. It wasn't. > Either way, this shit isn’t getting near my system. Sounds about right.
- avazhi 2mo ago
  > > Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was. > It wasn't. Prove it. But you can’t, which is problematic for you. Nobody should believe anything OpenAI says about anything. They either lied about it breaking out of a sand box, or they’re incompetent by building a sandbox their AI could break out of. It’s a cute story, though.
  - perching_aix 2mo ago
    > Prove it. But you can’t, which is problematic for you. More honestly: "Convince me. Except I've already made up my mind, so I'll never let you." And like yeah, that does seem to be the case, so that's a bit rough indeed. That said, if you feel like being a bit intellectually daring tonight, here you go: https://youtu.be/87DyyMV0kCY https://youtu.be/87DyyMV0kCY > Nobody should believe anything OpenAI says about anything. It's a great thing you bring up beliefs: it's the only thing people ever have, both you and me. Personally, after hearing their account (linked above), I don't find much to disbelieve on it. It's just a series of "oh okay, that's fun, makes sense" moments. It's normal stuff. They're definitely at least a little proud of having popped a few shops, but that's very realistic in its own way. I guess your best next option is waiting for a lawsuit to reach discovery or something, and then it's a matter of how dedicated you are to your disbelief. This indeed hasn't happened yet though, if it ever will, so nothing for me to provide (nor for you). Speaking of, note that I don't have any more reason to believe the likes of you than I do OpenAI. Especially because it all just comes across as trite cynicism, mixed with generous amounts of wishful thinking. I also happen to be simply using these things, so that further plays into why I don't find these events particularly miraculous. It's already existing capability for the most part, so why would I? The only difference is disabled guardrails and better temporal coherence, which is exactly what you'd expect from upcoming models still in eval. > or they’re incompetent by building a sandbox their AI could break out of. One could definitely make the argument that someone was at least a little asleep at the wheel, but I don't think that makes them particularly incompetent. Just the normal variety you'll find anywhere else.