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By this logic Europeans should be a total police state. To find a solution we need to discover what makes Americans so afraid that no gun is big enough, no mil

• tomjen3 14y ago
  As a European I would argue that we are already living in a police state -- there is so much surveillance here, so many things that would be a violation of the 4th admentment if we had one, so many things that would be a violation of the first admentment -- it is just that we don't like putting people in prison for very long and our media love to take up stories so most of this shit doesn't happen too openly.
• Vivtek 14y ago
  First, it hasn't been so long since Europeans had police states, and people in Europe actually remember it. Second, "Europeans" are a myth. The French, Germans, Italians, Danes, Brits, Spaniards, Hungarians, Greeks, Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, Romanians, Dutch, Belgians, Irish, and so on trust each other about as far as they can collectively throw one another. No one country can possibly get much centralized control. Not that they don't try. Third, Americans have that exceptionalism thing: no matter how dangerous a course of action is, an American will succeed because, gosh darn it, God loves us and we're great! So something like TIA, well, sure, if Castro tried it or even some trustworthy but lesser nation like English did, it'd be terrible tyranny - but we can be trusted because we're Americans.