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Again, I will wait until there's a provider that doesn't train on prompts before I will benchmark.
by XCSme 2mo ago
Again, I will wait until there's a provider that doesn't train on prompts before I will benchmark.
- dakolli 2mo agopsst.. they all do. Also, what kind of IP are you protecting, are you protecting some crazy discovery, nothing you're throwing at them is special, they aren't going to steal your CRUD pomodora app. If anything Deepseek is the only company I'd want to consent to training on my data, they're by far the most altruistic. Atleast they give back all their IP in the form of research and open source weights. It's not like they're hoarding your data for them to make money, they're basically giving everything out for free. The only reason you even have the option of waiting for another provider is because they release weights. They're releasing all their IP, which is a trillion times more valuable than anything you're providing, you people are just greedy and oddly self centered.
- diydsp 2mo ago>are you protecting some crazy discovery Yes. If someone figured out my current project they would have a huge scoop.
- ai_fry_ur_brain 2mo ago[dead]
- XCSme 2mo agoI "trust" what they say on OpenRouter for the provider, for some it says they retain prompts, for other that they retain but can also use them for training. It's not any crazy IP, just my own benchmarks/tests, once they are in the training set it defeats the purpose of the tests, and I have to make new ones.
- LeBit 2mo agoThe good thing is that there seems to be quite a lot. Let’s just wait a bit for this one.
- ljlolel 2mo agoI built TrustedRouter so this can fail closed. min_privacy=zdr rejects the request when the model has no ZDR provider; confidential requires provider-side confidential compute. https://trustedrouter.com/blog/how-confidential-computing-protects-ai-prompts?utm_source=hackernews&utm_medium=organic_reply&utm_campaign=openrouter_conversations_202608&utm_content=20260813_hackernews_benchmark_privacy https://trustedrouter.com/blog/how-confidential-computing-pr...
- XCSme 2mo agoI don't understand how this works? Is it another proxy on top? What stops the provider from reading/storing the prompts at the LLM execution level?
- ljlolel 2mo agoit's confidential compute, it's open source and you can verify yourself that it's not reading the prompts
- XCSme 2mo agoOpen source doesn't matter if someone else is running it, right? They can change it? As long as the prompt is not encrypted at some point, and I don't think LLMs can run on encrypted prompts, then it can be read.
- ljlolel 2mo agoWith confidential compute / TEEs you can guarantee that the code is running, it's verifiable with remote attestation
- XCSme 2mo agoSo where does the guarantee stop? At the GPU driver level? Firmware level? What if the GPU has a custom bios flash that somehow logs the unencrypted prompts?