2 ms·There's no "hope" involved here. I'm talking about what the words actually mean.by zahlman 3mo agoThere's no "hope" involved here. I'm talking about what the words actually mean.DANmode 3mo agoWhy not consider how they’re actually used in practice by law enforcement? Pretty big part of the conversation.zahlman 2mo agoBecause the entire point of my comment was to point out a logical fallacy, not to argue the matter at hand.