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Right now, sol-xhigh is my favorite model. I feel that Opus 5 is dumber than 4.8. Fable is too expensive to do anything (limit of $50, started a prompt at $25,

Right now, sol-xhigh is my favorite model. I feel that Opus 5 is dumber than 4.8. Fable is too expensive to do anything (limit of $50, started a prompt at $25, ended up at $75, is bullshit, but at least it's "free credits"). DeepSeek is okay for random API-based stuff, as it's cheap. Local open models running on a 5090 are hit or miss. I feel that most GGUFs/quants are awful...

miohtama 2mo ago
Opus 5 degrades to word salad. I wonder if it is because of watermarking.
- SwellJoe 2mo ago
  Opus 5 doesn't really even speak coherent English. I'm not sure what's going on, but it can't explain anything. It still does an excellent job with code and writing tests and code review and creating and completing a plan, and it seems to be able to understand English instructions, but it sure as hell can't explain what it did or how to use the code it wrote. That was true before they announced the watermarking, I'd already started to back off of using Opus as much because I like to understand what the model is doing and have it write documentation I can use to reproduce its results, but maybe watermarking was already in there unannounced.
  - sscaryterry 2mo ago
    This 100%. The incoherent drivel has literally made me move away from CC completely.
- isoprophlex 2mo ago
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- mlrtime 2mo ago
  Agreed, I'll get a terminal full of text and I just reply "I don't understand this" And it retypes it for a human, I'm doing this more and more lately.
- pulkitsh1234 2mo ago
  Ah, so it's not only me :-D I think it could be the watermarking, but at this point they might be deliberately complicating the prose so that we ask clarifying questions and that leads to more token spend.
ericfr11 2mo ago
I am still on Opus 4.8, with a custom built harness and it works very well even on multi-repos, across stack, deep changes. I also have a very solid test suite which is helping the coding agent a lot
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miohtama 2mo ago

Opus 5 degrades to word salad. I wonder if it is because of watermarking.

SwellJoe 2mo ago
Opus 5 doesn't really even speak coherent English. I'm not sure what's going on, but it can't explain anything. It still does an excellent job with code and writing tests and code review and creating and completing a plan, and it seems to be able to understand English instructions, but it sure as hell can't explain what it did or how to use the code it wrote. That was true before they announced the watermarking, I'd already started to back off of using Opus as much because I like to understand what the model is doing and have it write documentation I can use to reproduce its results, but maybe watermarking was already in there unannounced.
- sscaryterry 2mo ago
  This 100%. The incoherent drivel has literally made me move away from CC completely.
isoprophlex 2mo ago
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mlrtime 2mo ago
Agreed, I'll get a terminal full of text and I just reply "I don't understand this" And it retypes it for a human, I'm doing this more and more lately.
pulkitsh1234 2mo ago
Ah, so it's not only me :-D I think it could be the watermarking, but at this point they might be deliberately complicating the prose so that we ask clarifying questions and that leads to more token spend.

ericfr11 2mo ago

I am still on Opus 4.8, with a custom built harness and it works very well even on multi-repos, across stack, deep changes. I also have a very solid test suite which is helping the coding agent a lot

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