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How does Grok 4.5 compare to Opus >= 4.8 though? I'm willing to pay 2x for a 10% smarter model. Intelligence matters that much (because 10% smarter probably sa
by nomilk 2mo ago
How does Grok 4.5 compare to Opus >= 4.8 though?
I'm willing to pay 2x for a 10% smarter model. Intelligence matters that much (because 10% smarter probably saves, on average, several hours of human time).
- redox99 2mo agoIt's a bit worse. I haven't tried so it's pure speculation based on benchmarks, but I'd assume Grok 4.6 is around Opus 4.8 in real world use, but clearly below Opus 5.
- douglee650 2mo agoI've found Fable 5 to be so much better than 4.8. For building a full stack custom CRM and media pipeline tool with video conversion, transcription, and indexing. Supabase, AWS, Meili, NextJS, GCS - lots of surfaces and planes. 4.8 basically couldn't do it, I abandoned the project as the fallback was, "current business processes". With F5 it's been 4 weeks and almost ready for production release.
- mandeepj 2mo agoI have the same quality results with Fable. With just a brief prompt, it created a great static website with a beautiful animation of a workflow. Gemini's output was so poor that I closed the chat. And with Codex, the results were bad, so I discarded them.
- douglee650 2mo agoAgree. Opus 4.8 could make nice little toy and demo apps. This app had a lot of surfaces and pipeline, Postgres, vector search, S3 -- couldn't handle that. Fable 5 is still a lot of work and you have to check it, but it really does perform at senior eng level. Shipping good size features daily.
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- vorticalbox 2mo agoGrok is $2 in and $6 out. 4.8 is $5 in and $25 out. It’s not as quite as smart as opus 4.8 but it’s close and x4 the cheaper.