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> This is an attack against their Windows customers, not a cost cutting measure. I really don't think that Google has some weird malicious desire to fuck over

by duaneb 14y ago

> This is an attack against their Windows customers, not a cost cutting measure. I really don't think that Google has some weird malicious desire to fuck over Windows customers. I think this is just an effort to get Microsoft to play nicely with internet standards- which is good for everyone.

kenjackson 14y ago
Google has also said they are not going to support Win8 at all. And Google knows IMAP is pathetic as a replacement for mail. If Google built a full fidelity open platform for Gmail and YouTube APIs then maybe I'd believe you. But as it stands today Google only believes in open standards when they aren't in a strong market position.
- hahainternet 14y ago
  > And Google knows IMAP is pathetic as a replacement for mail. Sorry, could you be more explicit?
- duaneb 14y ago
  > Google has also said they are not going to support Win8 at all. Source? Last I checked, Chrome is fully supported, and whatever internet explorer comes with it is SURELY supported.... it'd be huge news if they didn't. > And Google knows IMAP is pathetic as a replacement for mail. Is it? It's much better than POP3, and to my knowledge it supports every feature of GMail I use but search and different star ("flag") colors. Syncing does suck, but that's syncing, not IMAP. I can't imagine downloading 2 gigs of email would be much better with another protocol. > But as it stands today Google only believes in open standards when they aren't in a strong market position. Hey, it's better than doing what Microsoft has done traditionally- i.e. using their strong market position to lock customers into closed systems. But I'm really not trying to take sides in this matter- the customer gets hurt no matter who the target is. I just think that saying "Google is screwing over Windows users" is disingenuous; that's clearly not their intention (which is "Google is trying to manipulate Microsoft."). Microsoft is no longer the biggest kid on the playground, and they can't expect everyone to license their tech, especially when most mail-reading devices are probably not windows devices.

by duaneb 14y ago

kenjackson 14y ago

Google has also said they are not going to support Win8 at all. And Google knows IMAP is pathetic as a replacement for mail. If Google built a full fidelity open platform for Gmail and YouTube APIs then maybe I'd believe you. But as it stands today Google only believes in open standards when they aren't in a strong market position.

hahainternet 14y ago
> And Google knows IMAP is pathetic as a replacement for mail. Sorry, could you be more explicit?
duaneb 14y ago
> Google has also said they are not going to support Win8 at all. Source? Last I checked, Chrome is fully supported, and whatever internet explorer comes with it is SURELY supported.... it'd be huge news if they didn't. > And Google knows IMAP is pathetic as a replacement for mail. Is it? It's much better than POP3, and to my knowledge it supports every feature of GMail I use but search and different star ("flag") colors. Syncing does suck, but that's syncing, not IMAP. I can't imagine downloading 2 gigs of email would be much better with another protocol. > But as it stands today Google only believes in open standards when they aren't in a strong market position. Hey, it's better than doing what Microsoft has done traditionally- i.e. using their strong market position to lock customers into closed systems. But I'm really not trying to take sides in this matter- the customer gets hurt no matter who the target is. I just think that saying "Google is screwing over Windows users" is disingenuous; that's clearly not their intention (which is "Google is trying to manipulate Microsoft."). Microsoft is no longer the biggest kid on the playground, and they can't expect everyone to license their tech, especially when most mail-reading devices are probably not windows devices.