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The point that everyone is making is that the world has fundamentally changed because of Trump, and "nobody and no country will trust the US or their commitment
by senordevnyc 2mo ago
The point that everyone is making is that the world has fundamentally changed because of Trump, and "nobody and no country will trust the US or their commitments ever again".
It's been repeatedly demonstrated that this certainly isn't true now, so you're moving the goalposts to some indeterminate point in the future where it will be true, with no idea of when. "Decades", apparently.
So I guess the claim has now been watered down from "nobody will trust the US again" to the idea of a gradual decline of the US over decades. Hardly a unique insight, or one worth really discussing. It's near impossible to predict what will happen in the world over the coming decades.
What we can definitely say right now is that the claim as stated is bullshit. Perhaps it's a strawman from what you actually meant, but I can only respond to all the words and arguments you actually provided.
EDIT: for fun, I clicked on your link about the "staggering" drop in tourism. It's down a whopping 5.5%. Only 68 million visitors in 2025 vs 72 million in 2024.
Time to pack it up and go home, the US had a good run, but we're clearly a failed state and no one wants to come here anymore.
- ceejayoz 2mo ago> It's been repeatedly demonstrated that this certainly isn't true now… Yes, that's what "will" means. (Nor have you demonstrated this, as you continue to act like doing business with a used car salesman is evidence of trusting said used car salesman.) Keep winning that battle against unmade assertions, though. We believe in you! > EDIT: for fun, I clicked on your link Ah, so you're not engaging in good faith in an actual discussion. I do appreciate the confirmation.