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And I think what people don’t appreciate is that when people write/make something, they generally don’t just throw it out there and expect praise. They edit and

And I think what people don’t appreciate is that when people write/make something, they generally don’t just throw it out there and expect praise. They edit and sculpt it for public release or abandon it. But for some reason when it’s made with an LLM there is this assumption that you need to put it out there because everyone would be so excited to see it. Then when people say it’s not good, everyone starts getting into an argument about AI generated content. I just don’t see the point to this dance anymore. It was interesting for like…the first couple of months maybe. Alternatively: “Here’s my fragile app I made in a few hours that’s 10x too long and won’t survive iteration but it kind of works. Everyone should thank me.” I love tinkering, I love messing with things and doing cool projects, but 99% of what I make never goes beyond the room I made it in. Maybe I will show it to a friend when they come over. But ultimately they’re not fit for mass consumption and I don’t expect praise and use.

altmanaltman 2mo ago
Yes, we like tinkering because the process itself is rewarding. The outcome is usually not that important as long as the process is fun. But with AI, the process cannot be fun (because one technically skips it) if one uses it as a way to just spam out content/code. I still say there is a good argument to be made that ai can help in the process of tinkering as well but approach matters a lot and obviously the showcase part of it is not really that important in this context so we most only see short term outcome focused ai projects out in the wild
- Forgeties79 2mo ago
  Completely agree. I run 27B qwen 3.6 regularly at home with web search tool calls for simple script kiddy stuff and troubleshooting. I have occasionally made something that actually really did help me out, but I am under no illusion that it will be particularly useful to other people. They’re usually pretty specific to what I need and would fall apart at the moment they touch a different machine, mainly because the scripts themselves are straight up just referencing my file structure. I am not a coder, I am not an engineer, I do not know how to make something that can be applied to a bunch of different machines with different hardware and software and configs. I can just barely put together something that specifically works for me in that moment. I needed to use ChatGPT to finish setting up idrive once ffs. Why on earth would I share that with other people lmao I mean let’s be real, all I’ve built is some crappy clone of something that already exists most likely. But making a quick script on my computer is faster than using Google’s increasingly degraded search to try and find the thing that will work for me, so here we are, me tinkering and screwing around for a couple of hours every month and occasionally getting something that helps me out. That’s enough!

altmanaltman 2mo ago

Yes, we like tinkering because the process itself is rewarding. The outcome is usually not that important as long as the process is fun. But with AI, the process cannot be fun (because one technically skips it) if one uses it as a way to just spam out content/code. I still say there is a good argument to be made that ai can help in the process of tinkering as well but approach matters a lot and obviously the showcase part of it is not really that important in this context so we most only see short term outcome focused ai projects out in the wild

Forgeties79 2mo ago
Completely agree. I run 27B qwen 3.6 regularly at home with web search tool calls for simple script kiddy stuff and troubleshooting. I have occasionally made something that actually really did help me out, but I am under no illusion that it will be particularly useful to other people. They’re usually pretty specific to what I need and would fall apart at the moment they touch a different machine, mainly because the scripts themselves are straight up just referencing my file structure. I am not a coder, I am not an engineer, I do not know how to make something that can be applied to a bunch of different machines with different hardware and software and configs. I can just barely put together something that specifically works for me in that moment. I needed to use ChatGPT to finish setting up idrive once ffs. Why on earth would I share that with other people lmao I mean let’s be real, all I’ve built is some crappy clone of something that already exists most likely. But making a quick script on my computer is faster than using Google’s increasingly degraded search to try and find the thing that will work for me, so here we are, me tinkering and screwing around for a couple of hours every month and occasionally getting something that helps me out. That’s enough!